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Slop project, not sustainable. Matrix is the way.
Matrix is good. But its way too secure for my liking. Every time I log into a new device, I need to either use a previous device to verify, or add the new device by erasing my previous messages.
I am not recommending Matrix at all to someone who is not good at the computers mainly for this reason.
It has good, stable, and large enough communities however.
Movim might be a good option.
I don't know why people are downvoting you, you are right. It is a garbage project all you have to do is look at the git history.
Matrix unfortunately wasn't going to work for my group.
…here we go. I have this discussion like once a week and most of the reasons stated are things that have been fixed years ago. Is this still the case, with the actual matrix specification?
I'm currently hosting a matrix instance but haven't been able to get my friends to migrate over from Discord yet. The spec isn't the problem for us, it's the apps really. We have a seemingly basic discord server (channels for various hobbies/games we want to talk about + a general channel, a voice chat, and some custom meme emotes we made). In theory these should all be supported on the spec level.
Element has a ton of basic features locked behind a hidden developer menu (separate from the non-hidden developer menu) which is locked behind a / command. By default the app keeps defaulting to the old Jitsi meetings for voice calls even though I have the RTC matrix calling setup. It's also just finicky to get working. I'm the only one in the group willing to debug technical issues in their free time so this is actually an issue.
Cinny is better but the desktop app only supports voice chat on Windows (it's because of an upstream tauri issue but still stops several people in the group from being able to use it)
Nheko also seemed like a good option but it hasn't had a release in over a year which seems like a problem with how many improvements to matrix I've seen everywhere else.
FluffyChat is good and is what I use on my phone but it isn't well suited for discord-style organization with Spaces. There isn't a way to distinguish between standalone rooms and rooms withthin spaces. My understanding was that this is a spec issue and the way other apps handle it is hacky, but still worth mentioning.
Fluffychat can see spaces if you swipe from the left side of the screen
You can see spaces but it doesn't make a distinction between rooms in spaces and standalone rooms, so the "groups" tab ends up being filled with every room from every space you're in, making it impossible to find the lone standalone rooms. That and the fact that it also lists nested spaces completely separately from their parents, which ends up cluttering the list when a space used nested spaces to categorize individual rooms
Cinny and sable (cinny fork) both work fine as PWAs on desktop, windows and Linux. I'm running both on multiple machines and my phone
The biggest problem was me not wanting to be a sysadmin in my free time. There were some other compatibility issues, and not a good mobile solution for us.
I should look into matrix. I have a small group of nerds in my group. need video, voice, text, and image sharing. A dice bot is nice, too.