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transcriptScreenshot of a tweet by @feralhousepuppy: hey so you've been calling me "bro", "man", and "dude" a lot and it's really invalidating to my masculinity cause those are all gender neutral things you call trans women :/

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[-] Godort@lemmy.ca 36 points 7 hours ago

I really wish there was a word that was as useful as "dude" but without the gender connotation.

I tried swapping to "fam" and "cuz" but those felt appropriated, I tried "gamer" and "chat" but those felt irony-poisoned, "Sis" and "girl" feel performative. So "dude" it shall be until someone tells me it's bad, and then they get no objective article at all.

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 34 seconds ago

"howdy folks 🤠"

[-] bequirtle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

I think the australians have this figured out with "mate"

[-] anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

"cunt" kinda works

[-] somnuz@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago
[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

I full use hello beings when my brain is unsure what to call everyone. I also like all y'all.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I too am entering the conversation. Hello fellow resident of Earth.

[-] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 20 points 5 hours ago

I mean the golden rule with how you speak about people is really just to listen to what people tell you about what makes them feel respected

So feel free to use dude gender neutrally if thats how you speak, and if someone says they don't feel good in it, stop. If youre worried it might not feel great for someone you can always just say you're used to using it gender neutrally and ask 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I don't like dude as gender neutral and don't think I ever will. I'll stick with "fam," "friend," and "homie" (then again, I am Hispanic, so that might not work for everyone)

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago
[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Me omw to commit auditory blackface to avoid using a mostly gender-neutral term gender neutrally

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 15 points 7 hours ago

"dude" always felt gender neutral to me (though do note English is my fourth language...).

And if you look at the etymology of the word, gender neutrality makes some sense.

It started out as slang in the late 1800s mocking "hyper-fashionable young urban men".

Then the early 20th century it transformed to describe tourists from the East Coast on the Western side of the country (see "dude ranches").

And then in the 60-70s it transformed thanks to surfer slang, back to being male oriented.

I'd say if you're uncomfortable with the "dude" form of the term... use "dood" instead. Or even "d00d" if you're feeling l33t h4xx0r.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Gendered terms actually very often have really weird etymologies. You'd be surprised how many words for women used to refer to children of any gender (which could be a whole discussion by itself).

So in your examples, it went from making fun of a type of men, to referring to the overwhelmingly-male owners of hobby ranches, to referring to male surfers.

When exactly was it ever gender neutral?

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 4 points 2 hours ago

No...

You got the second part wrong. It wasn't the "overwhelmingly male owners of hobby ranches" that were called dudes, but, if you read my comment again, you'll notice I specifically said the UNGENDERED tourists hailing from the east coast - primarily city folk - visiting rural western areas, ranches.

[-] Forester@pawb.social 6 points 3 hours ago

The 80s and 90s skater culture. We're all dudes https://youtu.be/iKYXmjfQY4U

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 hours ago

I prefer homie

[-] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 hours ago

just say "baby".

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 hours ago

Always thought mate was fantastic but it sounds weird when Americans use it

[-] Godort@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 hours ago

Well, I'm Canadian, but I assure you it doesn't sound any better coming from us.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

America should refer to the continent anyway

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