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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:36 Sponsor: TuxCare

01:46 KDE's AI policy

06:42 Existing AI policies

10:06 Going further on AI

12:58 My stance on AI

17:05 FOSS projects: yes or no to AI?

28:02 Sponsor: Tuxedo Computer

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[-] naught101@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago

I'm not watching a 30 minute video to find out something that would take a few paragraphs to write...

I don't think people are worried about AI on the desktop, they are worried about AI in the development's process, because it introduces technical debt and dependence on fascist companies.

[-] viral.vegabond@piefed.social 31 points 1 day ago

The ecological impact as well.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 23 hours ago

This is a human who made a video with no AI voice, talked through it, presents multiple viewpoints, and your reductionist response is "could've been a few paragraphs". Either you're unwilling to understand complexity or unable or both.

[-] maltasoron@sopuli.xyz 15 points 21 hours ago

Any video that only shows someone's talking head should have been a blogpost, otherwise it's a terrible waste of resources.

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

This guys is a just a click whore who put sponso everywhere and can't even present news without giving hus shitty opinion

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

The KDE AI policy is pretty explicit about AI code contributions should have the same quality level as non-AI. So the tech debt concern is a nothing.

And there is no dependency risk, you can trivially switch from Claude to opencode w/ self hosted models, the AI companies have literally no moat to lock developers in. Its also entirely optional to use AI.

Environmental concerns are valid, but tech debt and dependency are silly arguments.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

I'm not talking about vendor lock-in, I'm talking about a system that has destroyed the training path for juniors, and the fact that as developers lean on AI more their skills atrophy and they become dependent on that workflow (regardless of provider), and their ability to introspect a code base decreases because they had less time learning it during the build-out phase.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This was an issue in the computer science field well before LLMs, though (like in many areas) they did pour gas on the fire.

TBH I think it’s more of an issue for paid software. Manpower and burnout is the bottleneck for FOSS projects, and contributions are largely thankless, hence I think amongst the people who do contribute, there will be more of an interest in truly learning the codebase.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Multiple FOSS projects have been complaining over the last year or so that they are getting swamped with LLM-generate PRs that are often low-quality, but still require a similar amount of time to review. LLMs are shifting extremely lited FOSS core maintainer capacity away from development and into time-wasting code reviews with a high rejection rate.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Well, yes, and that’s exactly what the KDE policy is addressing. They’re saying “we are going to reject vibecoded PRs, unconditionally; so don’t bother submitting them.”

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

The biggest contributor to the backlash of the proposed policy was the additional aspect explicitly not requiring AI used in a PR to be disclosed, regardless of its quality (and which is unrelated to the ability to quickly reject obvious slop PRs).

[-] nocteb@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

You can be mad about that, but it has nothing to do with KDE.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Except that the KDE contributors would be directly supporting it financially and giving it training data.

Also directly financially supporting technofascists and oligarchs.

Also directly financially supporting the destruction of the environment, stealing of water and electricity from the poor, bribary of politicians both local and international, and destruction of communities.

LLMs run by corporations are terrible and toxic, with very few exceptions. We also can't have a good faith argument and not acknowledge that the overwhelming majority of devs use those corporate datacenter models and not locally run models powered by home/company solar panels.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Sure, it's an everywhere problem. But it would be nice to see more projects having strong preventative policies.

[-] nocteb@feddit.org -5 points 19 hours ago

I think it is more important to leave people the freedom to decide for themselves. It's not an opensource project's place to tell its contributers how to work as long as the contribution fits their requirements. No one's opinion is worth more than the other one's.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

"Individual freedom" as a primary driver over the last decades/centuries is what's got the USA into the state it's in now. I'd rather focus on something that contributes to the collective good.

[-] nocteb@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Telling other people what to do is also a major conflict driver.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sure can be. But it's also a vital part of how any society works - it's what laws are for (making no claims about the efficacy of current legal systems here), and it's how you keep power in check. Libertarianism doesn't work.

[-] nocteb@feddit.org 1 points 27 minutes ago

There is no law that prohibits AI use. Telling people what to do also does not work it is usually met with resistance.

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

Sounds like a PR nightmare of AI tech debt to me. You're participating in the Shareen effect of the AI slop world.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

Feel free to explain how "no change in acceptable quality" generates tech debt.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Wtf is a shareen effect?

The top result is some missionary story https://www.mnnonline.org/news/shareens-story-a-divine-domino-effect/

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