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I think it's because what defeated them was violence and "violence is bad". Because the problem of nazism definitely could've been solved diplomatically... >.>
100%.
And on a related note, all of the right wing people who are proud of the US' wartime accomplishments (especially WWII) seem to forget why the US was so good at it. Science and Engineering are the main reasons (okay, scale and being far from a home front [no disrespect Pearl Harbor] top) that the US was so impactful. It's wild that a lot of the people who are particularly proud of developing a devastating bomb are the same people who hate science funding and science itself.
Those and an independent manufacturing / logistics capability far in excess of what the was torn economies were dwindled down to, a recent mass nationalization of infrastructure, social reform creating a dedicated and healthy populace while supporting research funding, massive independent agricultural base, independent energy supply, a military with experience in environments analogous to all fronts...
Basically everything that no longer exists in the US.
Oh and the wealthy paid taxes commensurate with the general pop...
Yup, absolutely. If a country wanted to "win" in that way again it would basically be by doing the opposite of what the GOP does these days.
We'll see if the AI bubble makes room for an actual Second New Deal
You mean to say firing all your experienced generals and replacing them with sycophants under the direction of a department secretary hired straight from faux news isn't the kind of decision a successful military superpower would make?!?!?
Please drill this into your head right now: the facts do not matter.
It's fine to appreciate the irony, but the true prime movers are operating on a whole different level underneath what is being said out loud.
I upvoted your comment, but if you ask yourself why they hate science funding, you'll find the answer(s) very quickly.
Yeah, I was much more appreciating the irony here than actually wondering. I know I can't logic them out of a situation they didn't logic themselves into.
And what caused it to rise was mass economic struggle of the working class.
And apathy from the left (Russia, KPD)
Yeah, even as a kid I could see through this logic. A typical workflow for me in school looked something like this: I get bullied → I stand up for myself → the bully gets violent → I defend myself → we both go to the principal's office and wind up suspended for the same length of time because "violence is bad."
Meanwhile in class I was learning about how our heroic grandfathers stood up to the ultimate bullies and defeated them with... you guessed it, violence.
It made no sense to me then and it makes no sense to me now, because it's illogical. Complete cognitive divorce between "theory" and "practice," or "abstract book knowledge" and "real-world actions/decisions/experience."
The entire US school system is designed around teaching you one thing while ~~encouraging~~ enforcing you to behave otherwise, honestly...