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[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not going to be voting National - I'd prefer a chronically underfunded public healthcare system to a US-style insurance driven private system - but:

  • The EV RUC exemption was supposed to be removed when the fleet reached 2% EVs - it did that ~6 months ago, but the government decided not to cos it's a bad look to do just before the election
  • The RUC charges are what pays for road maintenance along side fuel taxes - the exemption has to go away at some point
[–] evanuggetpi 7 points 1 year ago

I think they're talking about the discount on the purchase price of EVs.

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

National want to go to a RUCs for everyone system, which I think is the best way to handle vehicles that have multiple fuel sources such as plug in hybrids.

[–] BalpeenHammer 2 points 1 year ago

No they want to make exceptions for commercial and farm vehicles.

[–] absGeekNZ 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have always though that RUC for all was a much better system. Having it built into fuel as an extra tax is dumb.

A big V8 that gets 15l/100km and weighs the same as a prius that gets 5l/100km are paying vastly different amounts of tax for a very similar amount of wear and tear.

Another example is our people mover (Mazda Premacy) gets around 10-11l/100km, once the kids are a bit bigger we will get a smaller much more efficient car, the wear and tear caused by our Premacy is not more than a Prius/Tesla/Focus/Corolla...yet we pay more in tax than any of those vehicles.

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 1 year ago

I suppose the biggest advantage is how simple the scheme is, both to administer, and as the end user. Having to keep track of my RUCs is a pain in the ass.

It would be good if they could have a system where you simply pay as you go, much like how the toll roads work.

[–] master5o1 2 points 1 year ago

Just a follow on from your health comment.

If our health system is certain to become private, I for sure hope that:

  • ACC remains, at minimum as-is.
  • there is a regulation and standardisation for basic health insurance needs (more like the Swiss system than US free for all).
  • there is still some sort of safety net system for those who cannot afford it.

Of course, I'd prefer a public health system.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Im curious why it was 2% as this was likely anyway.

15-20% would provide enough density for ongoing resell markets, maintenance, "fueling" stations and carbon reduction.

[–] Dave 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read that by 1 April next year it was expected to reach 1.7% but National decided that was close enough. Where do I find the figure about it already being 2%?

Edit: Oh, it's counting plug-in hybrid. Currently about 1.4% BEV and 0.6% PHEV. Not quite 2% yet, it's at 1.96% as at August 2023.