The changes have been endorsed by transport researchers and street safety advocates as effective measures to help reduce the number of Kiwis killed and injured on the roads.

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[–] ciaocibai 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If it were fit for purpose each location they changed it, that would be great. But I’ve yet to meet anyone who (for example) thinks changing the road from Featherston to Masterton to 80kph is fit for purpose. Especially the Featherston-Greytown section which is probably the straightest and best maintained piece of road in the Wairarapa.

The only thing it’s done is force more traffic onto side roads which are still 100.

Also, well I appreciate the frustration of having others up your arse (ha) there could also be something to be said for pulling over if/when you are in a slower vehicle (e.g. towing a trailer) - not saying that you don’t pull over, but the amount of people that don’t, even with slow vehicle bays (or worse speeding up at passing lanes) makes the whole thing more dangerous.

[–] Rangelus 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't speak for Wairarpa so I leave that to you.

I always pull over. I have a wife and kids who all get car sick, so I take it pretty easy generally. But my point wasn't about me having people behind me doing 80 in a 100 zone - that would be understandable. My point was, previously large stretches of the road were uncomfortable at the posted limit, but even doing the limit angry locals would ride your arse only to Hoon past on a blind corner and speed off. My anecdotal evidence is the reduced limit has cooled people's driving temperament noticably. I even got two toots for pulling over, and a couple of hazard light flashes - something that hadn't happened in a long time before the limit reduction.

[–] ciaocibai 1 points 1 year ago

My partner actually purchased a little thumbs up light with a button we can hit when driving to thank the folks that do pull over.

I’m sure this whole situation depends on the particular road in question. On the remutakas the only people I’ve ever seen passing on blind corners are motorbikes which is incredibly stupid and suicidal. But there is a big speed differential between people who know the road and people who don’t - understandably so - but plenty of inconsiderate drivers (both slow and fast too). Generally trucks are the best at pulling over

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Hello. It's the only walking and cycling route through a densly populated(by rural NZ standards) area. It's also a very busy road that can be a pain to turn on and off. I'd rather they built a shared path, improved the busy intersections as they are doing, and left it at 100. But in the absense of that, this is an improvement.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd have thought the speed limit between Featherston-Greytown is more due to the volume of traffic on a relatively narrow road, due to how not undulating or curvacious it was. Particularly as there's been a decent number of collisions due to people turning on from the side roads etc.

[–] ciaocibai 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure I’d describe it as narrow, certainly not compared to other Wairarapa roads, or Wellington roads either for that matter. It’s got a wide median on both sides the entire way. If I could figure out how to post a picture form the mobile client I use, I’d add a picture to demonstrate. I do understand what you mean about the side roads though.

In the Carterton to Masterton stretch they’ve now put roundabouts in 3 different locations and a wire divider down separating the two sides - although I know some locals are unhappy as there is now a lack of turnaround areas - which presumably is to deal with the side road issue, but still the limit is (theoretically when complete) also 80 even with upgrades, again pushing more traffic down side roads.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant more in comparison to a proper double carriage-way or whatever, but ive not driven it for a long time and it sounds like the Carterton to Masterton stuff is way new from my last trip. I assume that area is still 100km/h with those extra protections in place?

[–] ciaocibai 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, they’ve lowered it to 80, and we’ve been told that they weren’t going to increase it. The council said that Waka Kotahi was looking to lower all rural roads to 60 which would be pretty slow in such a big area in the Wairarapa. Hence I’m keen for a policy change to return roads that are designed for it back up to 100.

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 1 year ago

60 for rural roads in the wairarapa would be utterly ridiculous, most of them are dead straight and can easily accommodate 100kmh traffic.