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Aotearoa Daily Kōrero 18/10/2023 (self.newzealand)
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Welcome to today’s daily kōrero!

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[–] eagleeyedtiger 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The parts of you that you have no control over are working against you in subtle ways that you cannot know.

I don't know man, you're getting into some woo woo broscience with talk like that.

Yes illnesses, lack of sleep, thyroid issues etc. can affect weight loss. There is enough data out there to show how weight loss works. It doesn't need to be an exact calorie number you hit each day. It's about generally keeping better habits and being mindful of your nutrition. Some days you go over, some days are under. Some days you exercise more and some days less.

I'm actually not sure what the point you're making is in regard to weight loss. As you say it all works out in the long run anyway.

[–] absGeekNZ 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The conversation went away from my original question about new information that conflicts with existing views, but that is the nature of conversation, you go where it leads.

But the book is more about the way ultra-processed foods mess with out reward systems to encourage over-eating and that exercise is not a way to balance out excess consumption. As your body simply thinks it needs more food, even though you have blown your food budget for the day; the increased exercise doesn't burn nearly as much as you would expect given the level of work you think you are doing, then eating a little more blows the budget even further.

[–] eagleeyedtiger 3 points 1 year ago

I agree with that in the sense that most people when getting in to fitness start to realise how much you have to exercise to burn off excess consumption. And that it's already known that ultraprocessed food is usually very calorie dense but can be nutritionally empty. I'm sure most who get into it seriously are aware dietary habits also need to change.

In running circles there's a saying "you can't outrun a bad diet". There's also "Abs are made in the kitchen".