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submitted 9 months ago by Rangelus to c/politics

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Great write-up.

In fact, the line “Labour and National had broadly similar fiscal approaches...” is worth repeating.

So the default position we should be applying to the current government is – where is all the evidence for the claims that Luxon is making?

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[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Don't hold your breath on the bracket adjustments actually happening; the only ones that are certain to go through are the back dated landlord subsidies.

[–] thevoyagekayaking 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the fuckers are already trying to squirm out of that one.

The inflationary adjustment is something I support the principle of more than anything else, but it's a disappointing start for sure.

On a slightly related topic, it was incredible watching Labour's support collapse last election, wasn't it?

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The principle sounds good & common sense like. But I believe NZ is vastly under taxed - compared to the public services we clearly want & need. So anything that reduces the tax take is for me a big negative. The only way i'd support the inflation adjustment to the brackets is by countering it with CGT and wealth taxes; and i'd also couple that with reducing GST as well.

[–] thevoyagekayaking 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Labour really should have gotten a CGT in while they had the chance, and an absolute majority. In my view, their failure to make the most of that is why they did so poorly in the last election.

In terms of a wealth tax, I don't like the idea one bit, mostly because I believe that once you have bought something, especially a property, it should be yours to keep. If your primary dwelling was exempt from the tax, then I would look at the proposal a bit more seriously.

Otherwise, you make life hard for retirees etc.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think that way about property. I think it would be better to think about property as a right to use; and once you're not using it, or not able to use it to its fullest that right should revert back to the community. Life's only hard for retirees because we choose to leave people to the luck of what they accumulated during their life time. We could choose to take care of everyone if we wanted to.

[–] Xcf456 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Otherwise, you make life hard for retirees etc.

The wealth tax the Greens propose is specifically designed to mitigate this, as it wouldnt apply to the first $2 million net for individuals and $4 million net for couples.

[–] thevoyagekayaking 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They did think of that, but what are the chances that figure will be adjusted for inflation?

[–] Xcf456 1 points 9 months ago

I don't see why it couldn't be, either with some sort of legislated review period or formula to calculate the threshold.

In any case I'd prefer having one alongside our non-indexed tax system to not having one at all