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Iwi Chairs Forum reps pull out of anti-racism plan due to 'continued racist rhetoric' (www.rnz.co.nz)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Ilovethebomb to c/politics

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"Our government has signalled changes to the plan, including a reduced focus on institutional racism and colonial racism against Māori, which would render the plan pointless as all instances of personal racism result from the institutional racism of our society," Ngata said.

Uhh, what? What absolute nonsense is this?

Honestly, this whole thing feels like the forum getting the pip because we weren't making this all about them, and taking their ball and going home.

And then there's Bullshit like this.

Maori aren't the only group in NZ on the receiving end of racist behaviour.

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[–] AWOL_muppet 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you meaning something like a vote of no confidence?

Looks like that to me.

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A vote of no confidence is still participating in the system, this is withdrawing completely.

[–] AWOL_muppet 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fair point, but it's probably not the system they have an issue with, it's the current embodiment/makeup. I don't know if that's a meaningful distinction - we're basically splitting hairs aren't we?

[–] Ilovethebomb 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I honestly have trouble knowing how seriously to take this, I've seen so many people cry racism when they don't get their own way lately, it's lost it's meaning somewhat.

[–] BalpeenHammer 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you don't believe racism exists then of course you wouldn't take it seriously. There is a very large percent of this country that doesn't believe racism exists in NZ and another huge percent that are deeply racist so deep that it's baked into their everyday language. The two circles overlap by a large amount too.

[–] Ilovethebomb 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I am well aware that racism exists, but thanks for the patronising lecture.

My point was, a lot of people, particularly Maori, seem to define racism as being treated like any other ethnic group by the government.

[–] BalpeenHammer 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I am well aware that racism exists, but thanks for the patronising lecture.

I am not sure that you do. You gave no indications at all that you were aware that racism exists. Now that I know you are aware I am curious to know how much you think there is in the country and what if anything can or should be done about it.

My point was, a lot of people, particularly Maori, seem to define racism as being treated like any other ethnic group by the government.

That seems like a really racist thing to say. In fact that is a really racist thing to say. This is something somebody who is so racist and for whom racism is so baked into their brain they don't even recognise it as racist. This has in your mind become some fact for some reason.

[–] Ilovethebomb 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're a strange fellow.

[–] BalpeenHammer 2 points 7 months ago

What an odd reply to my post.

Yes I probably do seem strange to racists. I am OK with that.