None of these sources support the claim that there were a large percentage of deaths from the IDF. Even if I take every case you linked as 100% true there is still not a large percentage of friendly fire deaths.

It makes no sense for the host to push back on the claim that Hamas murdered x amount of Isrealis and say um actually there were a few cases where amongst the chaos some friendly fire happened. You would only believe this to be a valid thing to push back on if you believed the conspiracy that a large number of deaths in oct 7 were from the idf.

Honestly all Jack had to do was ask really simple questions like “is it wrong to kill children” and “what should happen to people who kill children”. Simple questions like that is all it takes to make a genocide apologist duck and dive and weave trying to escape.

He has likely already prepared a response to that since its the most common thing that is brought up. I think a better question would be to press him about the war goal of removing Hamas. Even in a perfect world where they remove Hamas (which they wont) they have caused so much damage to the Palestinian population and infrastructure there is no way any group less extreme than Hamas emerges to lead Palestinians. When Isreal pulls out of Gaza, Palestinians will return to their homes which are a pile of rubble and will be reminded every day about the war. I would like to hear him explain how this leads to more peace in the region. They could have pushed him about the peace deal that was in the works at the time and why Israel refused to sign if Hamas included a line about ending the war.

[–] BalpeenHammer 3 points 6 months ago

None of these sources support the claim that there were a large percentage of deaths from the IDF.

Straw man. Nobody said large percent were due to deaths from the IDF. The claim was that the numbers Israel published were lies.

It makes no sense for the host to push back on the claim that Hamas murdered x amount of Isrealis and say um actually there were a few cases where amongst the chaos some friendly fire happened

Why not? It shows that Israel was lying and guess what they have lied habitually during this war. Why shouldn't their lies be pointed out?

He has likely already prepared a response to that since its the most common thing that is brought up.

We will never know since Jack was too cowardly to ask.

I think a better question would be to press him about the war goal of removing Hamas.

LOL. Everybody knows that's never going to happen. Hamas is an ideology more than anything else. You think all the orphans Israel created will grow up loving Israel?

When Isreal pulls out of Gaza, Palestinians will return to their homes which are a pile of rubble and will be reminded every day about the war

What makes you think Israel will pull out of Gaza? What makes you think they won't kill or at least ethnically cleanse millions of Palestinians from Gaza?

Since you refuse to believe anything negative about Israel without links here are a couple which you most definitely will not read or accept.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/03/israeli-public-figures-accuse-judiciary-of-ignoring-incitement-to-genocide-in-gaza

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/05/wv-israel-hamas/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/24/israel-gaza-world-leaders-un-genocide-palestinians

Also here is an article that just came out today.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1cmoocu/benjamin_netanyahu_is_americas_worst_ally/

Oh and in case you made it this far I'll ask you the question.

Is it wrong to kill innocent people? Is it wrong to kill children? Is it wrong to kill infants in an ICU?

If it is wrong who is worse? Somebody who kills 30 children or somebody who kills 1000 children? What kind of punishment should the world unleash on the people who kill 30 children and what kind of a punishment should the world unleash on the people who killed 1000 children?