NZ consistently has the worst drivers I've ever had the horror of driving with. Purposely speeding up on passing places. Driving erratically. Levels of entitlement over 9000.

No respect for other road users and a mentality similar to housing. "I've got mine so screw the rest of you"

Surprised the death toll isn't far higher.

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Road to zero has been an absolute failure so far.

[–] ciaocibai 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if they reduce the speed limit to zero that should put paid to many of the problems.

I do hear talk of reducing rural roads in my region to 70-80kph (which they’ve already done on long straight sections of state highway) and I find it’s made it worse because people are now behaving even less rationally than they used to.

[–] Ilovethebomb 3 points 1 year ago

They're absolutely delusional if they think those limits will be obeyed.

[–] murl 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, instead of being negative about it, we could promote the number of deaths in an aspirational way. Treat it like GDP - the more the better. It's a sign of a vibrant economy.

[–] Ilovethebomb -2 points 1 year ago

You consistently have some of the dumbest takes I've ever heard, keep up the good work.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

https://youtu.be/IxS1ZpKDWYs

[+] Fizz -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe drivers licenses should be tied to school results

[–] absGeekNZ 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would that help?

[–] Ilovethebomb 4 points 1 year ago

It wouldn't, you don't need to be smart to drive safely.

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another great way to strip the poor of more freedoms.

[–] Fizz -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

school is extremely easy now, its not fair to say that poor people cant pass highschool.

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm guessing you have missed the dozen studies that make the headlines every year looking at the socieconomic impact on education? No matter, a learning opportunity if you wish to take it. Or don't and carry on posing as an ignorant online presence.

[–] Ilovethebomb 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't even bother engaging with the dropkick personally. Every comment of his I see, he just takes the most aggressive and confrontational line possible.

[–] Fizz 0 points 1 year ago

Firstly my comment was not a serious suggestion to stop crashes, its obviously not something we would implement given how car dependant we are in NZ. I am aware of the socioeconomic impact on education and it does not mean that poor people are unable to complete highschool only that they preform worse on average and achieve less. That sounds like semantics but its not. Keep in mind that in NZ low socioeconomic status kids are on par with the OECD average education level. Its not unreasonable to expect majority of poor people to pass whatever test is done at 15-16. I've done NCEA and the hardest part is showing up.

The general reasons that low ses children fail to keep up with the NZ average in school and keep in mind that in NZ low ses kids on average are on par with the OECD education level. Is child poverty no food etc, family does not vaule education, peers do not value education. Offering incentives like if you pass Ncea lvl 1 and you can sit your restricted license would be huge motivator for a lot of young men. You can have clauses (and we already do) that if you live rurally you can get a license earlier to catch the people who slip through the cracks.

Over half of the crashes are related to speeding, drugs/alcohol or both. Thats a sign that people are not responsible enough to be driving. The 15-19 age group and especially males are hugely over represented in every type of crash stat. Which suggests either young people not responsible enough to drive or drivers license test being to relaxed. I've recently done my drivers license tests and they're pretty strict and require near perfect understanding of the road rules and speedlimit to pass. It really is a case of people unlearning the stuff that they used to pass the test. Which again makes me think that people in this age group are not responsible enough to drive.

This study it concludes that "Occupational status and educational level seem to be important determinants of driver injury risk" https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/7/512. Participants who had been to secondary school for less than two years were twice as likely to have experienced a driver injury as those who had been to university or polytechnic. There was little evidence that driver injury risk was associated with neighbourhood income.