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Some major shifts here, greens pick up a lot of Labour's loss, but still a shift to the right.

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[–] Rangelus 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God this is depressing. People are both shortsighted (tax cuts instead of fixing the underlying problems) and narrow minded (the books look bad during a global recession, let's go with someone else!).

I'm a business owner, so ostensibly should vote Nats because they are more likely to benefit me. But I'm not a selfish prick. I want society to be more equal, more inclusive, and less unfair. I want the wealth gap to shrink. I want public transport and climate responses. None of these things help me right now, but they help all of us in the long run.

Even with Labour wiffing hard during their terms, I have zero confidence in NACT to improve anything except for the wealthy in the long run.

Fucking depressing.

[–] Ilovethebomb -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, we've got a choice between giant douche or turd sandwich.

Mostly I just don't want to see TPM anywhere near the reins.

[–] BalpeenHammer 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are sick and tired of competent management of the economy, falling house prices, a quick turnaround on inflation, etc.

They just want to vote for whichever party fans their racist flames the hardest.

[–] absGeekNZ 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is interesting where the different parties are putting their billboards. The "rich" neighborhoods tend to have more Nat/Act advertising and the TPM billboards are in the less well off areas, definite profiling going on somewhere in the political parties.

It seems a little silly to me, like you are advertising to those that are likely already captured. Wouldn't your advertising dollar be better spend trying to convince others to vote for you.

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they think it's a fools errand to spend money trying to convince people who are not likely to be convinced.

[–] absGeekNZ 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sure you are correct, but it just seems a bit backward

[–] luthis 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well.. I can give the new CEO of nz some credit. He is kind of honest. When asked if he would lower the rent on his properties, he wouldnt answer, which is an obvious no. Other politicians would have just lied and said yes to get the points.

[–] Xcf456 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] luthis 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, startlingly accurate.

[–] Xcf456 5 points 1 year ago
[–] jeff11 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't mind voting for Act again if somehow they could be prevented from joining with National. Deregulation of housing is exactly what we need.

Oh well. I guess there's no point in voting any more. I'd rather put my faith else-where. Even if Labour or the Greens got in, they'd probably screw-up their own policy and we'd be no better off. 6 years of Jacinda is already leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

It's all depressing news. The political class don't care, and people will become desperate or selfish, depending on their situation. I hope things get worse to the point that we see more protests outside Parliament. Kiwis are so apathetic. They'll stroke their dicks to pornhub, drink craft beer and eat Whittaker's chocolate, they'll talk about Star Wars, Netflix or the All Blacks, and they'll vote in elections as if it mattered. But they'll never rebel.

[–] Ilovethebomb 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, it's a pretty bleak political landscape, and the constant bickering and infighting among our politicians doesn't help at all.

Absolute fucking clown show out there.

[–] jeff11 1 points 1 year ago

We give them too much attention.