the part that pisses me off the most about this is that the democrats all read the thrice-damned playbook.
Like. WHY THE FUCK DO THEY NOT HAVE A PLAN?!
oh. that and the fucking nazis are winning.
That’s genuinely the most sanity-destroying part of this for me.
They made a playbook years ago. They said they made it. The posted it openly on the internet years ago. They said they’d follow the playbook. They’re now following the playbook. They’re continuing to follow the playbook. They are completing entire sections of the playbook, according to what was written in the playbook. They will continue to follow the playbook.
This is not a surprise. You are not allowed to be surprised by this. Fucking stop it.
And yet: all the Democratic leadership and rank-and-file - save for a very small handful of progressives - are all in a constant state of shock and surprise. What the absolute fuck. How. HOW.
and more infuriating- they ran on "WE NEED TO FIGHT THIS".
Right? And then they fucking softballed it. Like, what the fuck. What the actual fuck.
“We can’t remove the filibuster… what if we need it?!”…
(Some time later, when it’s needed…)
“Best we can do is…. NOTHING”
Democrats aren't revolutionaries. They're legislators. Most of them didn't sign up for this but for normal work.
It does mean we have the wrong people in office when we need fighters, but I don't see how you can throw all the blame on them.
They're the ones who are afraid of going to Gitmo, assuming they aren't otherwise disappeared.
Democrats when they win an election: Wahhhh we dont have a congressional majority :c
Republicans when they win an election: FUCK LEGAL PRECEDENT I AM MORE POWERFUL THEN THE COURTS AND GOD, I WILL MURDER ANYONE WHO GETS IN MY WAY
Democrats when elected: okay but we only had all three branches of government for two years and Joe Lieberman was kinda mean :(
"Why do you dislike us? Our last major victory was a watered down bill by conservative think tanks 15 years ago! We can do more! ...We just never wanna."
Destroying is always easier than building.
Oh, they are building something
Democrats when they win an election: Wahhhh we dont have a congressional majority :c
Republicans when they win an election: FUCK LEGAL PRECEDENT I AM MORE POWERFUL THEN THE COURTS AND GOD, I WILL MURDER ANYONE WHO GETS IN MY WAY
May I steal this for the body of an image to post on !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com?
Yeah, where the fuck is this “rules don’t apply” when it’s legal weed or college debt?
It's amazing how well he's hitting a target he never heard of before.
Why are the American people so …weak?
In another month, Americans will have non ability to mobilize and fight the Dictatorship that is almost fully installed.
Meanwhile, Americans upvote FB crap thinking that does something.
Losers. All of them.
Talking for decades about how special they are. How free. How they stand against tyranny.
Laugh My Fucking Ass Off!
Heil Trump.
Americans are ENEMIES of freedom now.
The problem is, I don’t show up to work because I’m protesting, my child loses their home. And THAT’s why countries are pushing birth rates . I’d love to be out there, doing something, like I spent summers protesting shit George Bush was doing, or during trumps first term. But I don’t know how to do it now without losing everything.
Why are the American people so …weak?
In another month, Americans will have non ability to mobilize and fight the Dictatorship that is almost fully installed.
The exact same thing happened in Germany in 1933. This is the exact same playbook: way too many people are willing to accept a little fascism because the fascist promises to drop the price of groceries and target groups of people they don't belong to. Then the fascist doesn't drop the price of groceries and turns against those who supported him - by which point, it's too late.
What you've just discovered is that today's Americans as just as dumb as the Germans of 92 years ago - dumber in fact, because they knew what happened in Nazi Germany, an advantage the Germans who trusted Hitler didn't have.
The Americans should've known better, and yet they voted the orange fascist in. Plus ca change...
It’s hard to know if the American people actually elected t. There’s a video of him admitting that he rigged the election.
Also, even with him and fElon rigging the election, he still lost the popular vote, and they definitely engaged in enough voter suppression to rig the vote that way.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
Honestly... Education and social engineering. The majority of the folks here read at a 6th grade level. Their comprehension of complex social situations is nill. They can't fathom the difference between a million and a billion. Those numbers get tossed around so easily and commonly that it just washes over them like they mean nothing.
Our information flow is controlled. All sources of common easily found news comes from 4 or 5 oligarchs.
The boomer generation is the "soft men" generation. They hit the sweet spot for money generation, freak sex with no consequences, drug use with out worry of dying, housing that cost a lot, but was obtainable on a single salary and an education system that was paid for by the 90% tax in the Ulta wealthy and corporations.
The shining beacon on the hill, the USA that the WW1 and WW2 generations built was slowly destroyed by elected officials who were being paid by the wealthy and corporations.
All of that manipulation accelerated when citizens United was passed.
So now we have a generation of folks that have never had to fight in a war on their own soil. A belief system that we are better than everyone else and that our checks and balances will hold against a coordinated effort to dismantle the government. And a population that only cares if their teams win...
So it'll probably take 15 years before we get our heads out of our asses unless something drastic happens to collectively wake us all up. :/
Hopefully all that makes sense... I'm on mobile and I don't have my glasses. Haha
By all means, explain to me how Americans are supposed to fight against decades of wrong-think being bought and paid for by the richest people alive.
America is in the situation we're in because money is power and those with the most of it decided to slowly take over this country. If 90% of the people here could unify, they still wouldn't have the resources of the 30 billionaires controlling their tech and media narrative.
You better have a good answer of what to do when this happens again because based on the world wide rise of this kind of disinformation, it's only a matter of time before it happens to your country too. Assuming your safe is the only short sighted thing America did in this situation.
So I wouldn't be delighting in the strength these enemies showed in defeating the US, because it's just a matter of time before they come for you next. And if the US didn't stop them, you better be learning how.
Because this evil isn't localized to the US.
Let me ask you this:
How am I supposed to organize a mobilization of people in a country that is 2,800 miles (4506km) east to west and 1660 miles (2671km) north to south? How do I communicate where to meet up? How do I ensure our targets don't get wind of it? How do I ensure everyone is there? How do I make sure we get every leader that is going to need to be ousted? How do I ensure they're even going to be there? How do we find all of the money backers that want this crap? How do we decide who should lead this new leadership chain without starting another fight? How do we ensure that the military doesn't just mow us down when we try? If I can't lead this charge, who does? How do I find someone willing, and is actually capable of leading this charge? How do I ensure I don't just have some trigger happy yahoos that will shoot anything remotely a target before anything starts? How do I ensure we don't have bad actor there to tank it all (and there are plenty)?
Look, I see what you're saying. I'm pissed off. This isn't supposed to be the country I was raised in. It had many issues. This isn't the country that I raised my hand to fuck my body up for.
I'd love to pick up my weapons, drive the 2 weeks across the country, and do something about it all. I have kids. I know, I know, what the future holds for them is much worse than homelessness. That is still a rough pill to swallow. I'm a frog on a hot plate. That hot plate is thousands of miles across to get off. It is surrounded by 100's of other hot plates that have to be dealt with to stop the heat. Some of which I wouldn't even be able to find, or would be constantly moving around with the capability I have to mobilize (jet vs driving).
Do I flee the country? Do I stay and fight back the best I can? I can't flee. I can't work due to severe medical issues (another rub in this entire thing, how do I ensure everyone is able bodied enough to help). No one is going to take me in. The best I can do is arm and stock like I should be wearing tin foil on my head. Try to be as self sustaining as we can. A garden. Some chickens that will end up having to be guarded by Brinks soon. Then vote for the shit sandwich that doesn't have glass in it and is covered in barbed wire. Try to help my kids see why this is all bad. To differentiate good sources and bad sources of information. Weed out logical fallacies. Pick out gas lighting. Try to prepare them for a better future that opens more options for them. One that allows them to leave the country if needed. How to participate and make things better, and why they should participate in voting and other such things.
Weak? Does this stuff just get fixed overnight?
No. It hasn't. Ever.
What an ignorant comment.
People like you think the people who constitute countries are represented by their leaders.
Pathetic.
Wait. Isn’t this the thing Führer Trump said he didn’t know anything about?
The last time the Democrats had a coherent plan for when they got into office was 1930
Milton Mayer. They thought they were free. I would recommend this book. It documented everyday Germans who joined the Nazis. I see pretty much every single parallel to America today. We’re all the same people. Nothing exceptional about the US. We’re all susceptible.
And some will still say he had nothing to do with it
And those “some” are dumb as fuck.
Most people vote Conservative because they are afraid, and are drawn to leaders that seem strong, powerful, and promise to destroy or protect them from the things they fear.
They might've been dumb enough to be tricked. Now they're too afraid to admit they were. They're in too deep, and they'd have to sacrifice standing, community, stability, and their understanding of their place in the world if they were to admit they were wrong.
That's too scary. Most of them aren't too dumb to understand, they're convincing themselves because the alternative is too horrible for them to admit.
yup. we told you so. and i hate saying this.
the worst part is that we, in the third world, are going to suffer worse than you.
I've been checking this site on and off from Europe for about a month. Can someone who knows more than me explain the expected timeline for what remains?
I feel like it jumped up into the mid 30%s after only a month or so and then stagnated for weeks.
Now it seems to have jumped again. But I guess I’m wondering at what sort of percentage does everything go to shit (not that it isn't already!). Are there points where there is a no turning back or civil war becomes inevitable, etc.? Or does it hit a certain percentage where it will jump to 100% overnight due to certain protections being removed.
I guess I’m struggling to wrap my head around what I’m seeing, what it looks like between 40% and 100% and how quickly this might happen?
Even a guide somewhere on the net that breaks it down would be great.
It's early 1933 right now. The nazis were elected, they've set the dismantling of the state into motion, and most of their opponents still think that the rule of law is technically still valid. It'll just take time for the courts to do their thing.
The next step will be the Reichstag fire. So it might look like not a lot is getting worse for a few months, then one morning you might wake up, the news are talking about a terror attack allegedly done by an illegal immigrant, and any remaining pretense of democracy is simply wiped away by another "Executive Order" declaring an emergency, giving ICE authority to deal with "citizens aiding criminal aliens", deputizing thousands into ICE, ...
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