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[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Women weren't allowed to open a bank account in the states until the 70's

There is a good chance grandma didn't leave grandpa because she literally couldn't

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And women who had "hysteria" were given lobotomies.

Theres a reason there is still a large cohort of older folks to follow the taboo on therapy: "I'm not crazy, I don't need therapy". Because in the good ole days they just locked and chained up or lobotomized anyone with divergence.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't forget the number women who poisoned abusive men, but law enforcement and medical examiners quietly pretended it was natural causes

Let's bring that back

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fine but only if we can bring back the 90% top tax bracket too

Thank you for this additional piece of background, dear FistingEnthusiast.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The kind of people who want to end no fault divorce don't actually care about female suicide.

Warn them that men's life expectancy dramatically increased due to no fault divorce. Because a woman trapped in a bad marriage kills her husband.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If the husband is MAGA, then why the fuck not?

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[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I'm an older lady, and when I was young, I was told many interesting things by women who were quite old (at the time.)

My mother's family is from Siciliy.

Anyway all I'm saying is this sort of thing happened a lot, and if necessary, it will happen again.

Coincidentally, I'm almost 40 and have never married... but I haven't been single in many, many years. Those stories will stick with ya, and there's no need for divorce where there's no marriage.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Till death do us part.

Why are looking at me like that!?

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignores? No, my friend. They're completely aware and are fine with it.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

More than fine. It's the goal.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 23 points 1 year ago

Soon: "Nazis didn't care about minorities🤯"

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the suicide rate for both genders actually significantly dropped right after 1970. Wonder what's that about?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Living in a relationship that you don't want to live in, and having no way out except death.

What's to understand?

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago

They won't give a shit about female suicide.

Point out homicide of male partners dropped 70% and you may get their self-involved attention

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is kind of a bullshit statistic.

Female suicides for women have always been low, so the per 100k can vary a bit. In 1970 it was 7.4 per 100k and by 1980 it had dropped to 5.7 per 100k. However, in 1950 and 1960 it was 5.6 per 100k.

So really the "drop" was due to a single high decade of suicides before going back to the average that it had been at. The drop in suicides after the 1970's was really still a slightly higher rate than the 50s and 60s.

Also, men commit suicide roughly four to five times more often than women.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Far higher social stigmas and family pressure likely led to fewer deaths being ruled suicide in the 1950s as compared to today but of course there can be no data on this fact, just anecdotes.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Anecdotal and a lack of causation. Saying suicides in women dropped after getting no fault divorce after the 70's is no more a causational fact than saying female suicide rates dropped after the 70's due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979

Seems legit. That's a pretty inspirational song.

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[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read multiple times that women attempt suicide just as much. If not more than men, men are just better at being successful

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it is their goal, which is why they have to be killed.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

What people seem to have also forgotten is the amount of righteous murder that was going on. https://youtu.be/Gw7gNf_9njs

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No fault divorce is a no brainer.

[–] PlutoVolcano@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Funny enough the people that don’t support it have no brain so I’m not so sure

Or maybe they’re just evil down to their core

[–] credo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Oh shoot, the GOP left some data laying around. Don’t worry. They will begin deleting such facts immediately.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hold up. Rewind.

They used to assign fault during a divorce? What the hell?

Why was that ever a thing?

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No fault divorce isn't about assigning blame. They actually still do that in certain situations, such as adultery or abuse. No fault divorce means that the state will allow a divorce even if no one is to "blame." Prior to that, you essentially needed a legal reason to get a divorce other than "I just want to be married to this person anymore."

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Even if both people wanted a divorce they would have to do something like fake an affair. The husband could hire a hooker and the wife would hire a P.I. to "discover" the indiscretion.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

The elite and religion (same thing) need more babies

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

“Maybe”?

[–] ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Gilead theme music intensifies

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Ohh they're not ignoring it. They want to go back because of it.

May I recommend The Way We Never Were for real insight into earlier American life and families.

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Ron Howard: "It was."

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"Look how low divorce rates were. Great success!"

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Of course it is. Now a days they catch so much shit for trying to rape their wives that they just want it to go back to a time where it was okay to be a POS.

For some that is almost explicitly the goal. They advocate against no-fault divorce which will, by is very nature, keep more women in dangerous marriages and increase physical and sexual abuse of women. In the 1950s, women were rarely seen as hirable and that kept them financially dependent on men. Today we don't just let women work, it's a necessity for basically everyone. But while we have made sure women (and men) can still independently with programs like SNAP and medicaid, those same people advocating against no-fault divorce also want to weaken or eliminate those programs. The end result of that will mean that basic survival will require, at minimum, two-earner homes. This will further tie women to abusive husbands even if they could justify an at-fault divorce, because they may be choosing between physical/sexual abuse and being able to feed, cloth and house themselves (and their children). This will also naturally increase suicide rates among women. So... those goals are indirectly GOP platform policies.

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[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

IIRC women couldn’t get a credit card into the 70’s. Crazy.

Edit: couldn’t

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Women could not build individual credit until the 1974 Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA). They needed a male cosigner to have a credit card prior to this.

The Fair Credit Reporting Act of 1970 expanded credit card access for minorities. Systemic credit reporting inaccuracies disproportionately impacted them prior to this with Black/Hispanic neighborhoods having 2-3x more credit disputes than white areas.

There's a reason some of the anti-inclusive members of our society want to go back to a time of lower competitiveness. Unfair advantages allowed the few to have an easier life at the expense of the many.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The GOP is for gender equality by raising female suicide rates to match male ones.

Equal Opportunity Misery

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would the goal be to make women miserable? Like what's the point?

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

To get back at them for what Eve did in the Bible. (I'm only partly kidding.)

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
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