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Let's look on the bright side. The people voted this way (quite significantly) so they must be seeing something positive there. I already know all the downsides so let's discuss the upsides.

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[–] RecallMadness 21 points 1 year ago (42 children)

Looking forward to public services being asked to do more, but not receive any more funding. Stretching them thinner, and making them shittier.

Looking forward to a “restoration of law and order” incarcerating more people, separating families and causing more crime. While not addressing the problems that caused the crime in the first place.

Looking forward to the RBNZ being told to lower interest rates and artificially inflating property prices; making it harder for young families to buy in the communities they live and work in, and increasing the cost of living for every day people as they’re strangled by landlords.

Looking forward to dying from heatstroke in 50 years time from global warming due to increased and prolonged reliance on fossil fuels.

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[–] deadbeef79000 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

so they must be seeing something positive there

I'm not so sure about that compared to just being "not Labour".

Labour showed this term that they're merely interested in maintaining the status quo and that all the progressive policies in the previous term came from the Greens and NZF.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Swinging back and forth between two parties that don't significantly change anything is the system working as intended.

Neoliberalism has created managed democracy in every wealthy country the world over. You can choose "blue neoliberals" or "red neoliberals". One is slightly more greedy, one is slightly less greedy and together they create a careful balance that keeps them from the guillotine.

The moment anyone suggests anything outside that, they've got a class unity the rest of us can only dream of. They'll throw millions of dollars and every for-profit media and sleazy marketing agency they've got at making sure the status quo doesn't change.

It's why world over you keep hearing "the slightly less greedy ones aren't doing enough, time to give the extra greedy ones a try".

The only way out is to vote for genuinely progressive parties, routinely dumping them as neoliberals rush to metastasise within their ranks.

Unfortunately, social media is as close as we've ever come to mind control and AI will only refine that further.

[–] luthis 1 points 1 year ago

I guess that's it.

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[–] KhanumBallZ 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Average price of a moldy, rat-infested house going from $1,000,000 to $5,000,000NZD.

Good for people who own property I guess, including my future self. But I want nothing to do with this corruption. Time to shop for other potential countries to be a citizen of.

[–] skeezix 2 points 1 year ago

You're not poor, you're just an undeveloped millionaire.

[–] Ilovethebomb 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much doom and gloom in this thread, it's brilliant.

[–] Xcf456 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol you nailed it, the only benefit seems to be for assholes to go "nyah nyah" while everything gets worse over the next three years for thousands of people

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