Google fucking their own market. I will use a half working Linux phone before I submit to this. Something's gotta change with these fascist US corpos owning everything.
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Just switch to GrapheneOS or Linux at this point.
Sadly GrapheneOS only supports pixel phones and I refuse to give more money to Google.
Motorola is making a graphene os phone soon I think
Buy a used one, that's what I did. Google didn't make a dime off of me.
How do I reliably tell an unlockable bootloader from just a carrier unlocked device that may still have a carrier firmware that prevents bootloader unlocking?
I'm not sure I understand your question. If you're in the US do not buy a Verizon model. If It's a Verizon model there's nothing you can do with it. If the phone was purchased directly from Google it will be unlocked. It should be unlocked from most carriers I believe.
Buy a used pixel 2nd hand.
LineageOS isn't quite as hardline about the hardware having specific security features, and works on a BUNCH more phones. Maybe even your current one. If not, it's a lot easier to avoid Google buying for Lineage support than for Graphene.
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Swappa.com buy used.
I didn't know that. There is also LineageOS that supports a wider range of phones.
/e/OS is a degoogled fork of lineageOS that supports my fairphone, So I'll probably switch to that.
I've tried e/OS on my FP4 and had a terrible experience with it. They try to develop their own forks of every standard app and google apps to get a more "complete" branded experience but what they achieve in mass falls short on UX and buggy software.
They have their own launcher that often glitches out when trying to edit your home screen layout, animations that are shifty and looks incomplete, etc. In general they try to replace as much of the android stuff to look like their UI design but then you click around some menus and get into some system app settings that doesn't have it. It all felt inconsistent and poorly integrated. All the things they offer you can get through other means from FDroid anyways but with the added benefit of actually being up to date as well.
The best I've tried so far on FP4 is CalyxOS and I had an amazing experience with it. When they went on a bit of a internal hiatus to fix up some of their infra I switched to IodéOS. Both are more or less somewhat minor-ish modifications to stock LineageOS.
CalyxOS last I heard is back on track now so I would recommend trying that one out. It was an extremely stable experience and you get a stock android look and feel that feels more complete. While e/OS feels more like huaweis old poor iphone copies.
Thanks, I will look into CalyxOS
I wish there were more phones that could run Linux.
Handheld cyberdeck running linux with cell service is my dream.
Bro. GrapheneOS is only for Google phones that you still have to buy if you don't own one already. Motorola got support but so far 0 phones have GrapheneOS form their lineup.
Not to mention, most android phones are either Samsung or Chinese brands from which none will ever have support from GrapheneOS. Best you can do is get lineageOS or something and be lucky that these custom Roms have support for your device.
Buying a Pixel is just giving Google more money. Flip phone here I come.
They don't make money on the hardware, only on PixelOS
So is GrapheneOS pretty much the play here?
Nobody get all weird and hyper-niche, I want the easy FOSS one that the most people use, so I can find answers in forums for issues. The Linux Mint of phones.
I've been using graphene for over a year now, had used stock android since the HTC g1. Honest answer, graphene is stock without the annoyances, and finer grained security configuration. Major frustration is banking apps/no google pay, but since I switched banks (which I did because my old bank funds Israel) the new app works perfectly fine, so your milage may vary. Lack of google pay is inconvenient only if I leave my wallet at home, which is rare. Otherwise, it's rare that something is broken just because it's graphene, and if it is, the forums usually have the answer.
Oh god.....are we about to enter the era of 5000 different phone distros, that when it comes down to it are really all the same???
ZorinOS and Mint are basically the same thing. And really so are all the other debian distros.
There's like 3 types of linux. Everything else is just an offshoot of an offshoot. Personally I think it's severely damaged linux's popularity. And slowed it's advancements.
I hope thats not how phones go.
Unfortunately this is the beauty and the bane of choice and freedom: everyone has it's own opinion of what is good and what is not, and can easily make it so, fragmenting the offer and confusing the newbie losing it to the less free alternative. Works in Linux, works in politics.
There is no way to have freedom of choice AND a united front against the alternative.
That's the nice thing about standards, there are so many to choose from.
This is your yearly reminder that Steve Jobs did not want an app store on the iPhone, he believed websites could provide app like experiences.
Apple to this day reject or severely limit the Progressive Web App experience despite being on the consortium handling the standard.
The phone that you bought with your money, likely made by a third party, and sold by another party.
None of them are google.
Man if that happens graphene is going on here so fast.
Fuck it, consider your phone an applaince forced upon you. Take it and your phone bill off on your taxes as a business expense. SMS, calls, nav. That's all, don't give them anything more and tether a second device like a laptop for chatting with us degens.
Google: That guy? He orders pizza and goes to work.
Serious question : I wanted to start setting up phones as home/local servers using termux and second hand phones. Can I still achieve that after september?
Termux is on the Play Store so if you are logged in to each phone with your Google account, you shouldn't have a problem. I think...
I mean yes.... but I was thinking of removing the os as well? eh whatever, you're right.
Termux is on Fdroid too! So you'll be fine on a custom Android.
I did not expect to see a meme involving a malayalam actor on here.
If you want to degoogle graphineos sounds good.
In this analogy, is fisting good, or bad? Or maybe it's not an analogy...