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submitted 3 months ago by muhyb@programming.dev to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

AI images: hide. Yeah, sure.

I guess old printed encyclopedias are much MUCH better than this shit for your child's homework. Ugh, this is so disturbing.

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[-] sidebro@lemmy.zip 103 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just go to a source and search there directly instead of using a search engine. AI has made search engines annoying as fuck lately. Wikipedia

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 32 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that should be how it's done. Must teach that to children though, this is so brain-hurting.

[-] sidebro@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago

We shouldn't have to, but yeah... Here we are 🤷

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[-] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago

I feel like AI is creating a renewed old way of browsing. Find info about some project in a forum(lemmy) go to the actual website, not social media, not google just plain old type the URL and go directly to a human made site.

Distrust in corpo and AI might just bring back websites made by humans. Personal blogs, forums, product pages etc...

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 64 points 3 months ago

Fucking hell first row last one 🫠

Presumably DDG's detection has a hard time keeping up with AI development. You can report AI generated images via the three dot menu so that's... something.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 26 points 3 months ago

Already reported but not sure if we can fight this. We need AI to block AI apparently.


Sorry, Earth. For what we've ~~AI overlords~~ done to you.

[-] MrWafflesNBacon@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

Yeah sadly the No AI filter isn't 100% accurate, it does try though and is better than no filter IMO

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 21 points 3 months ago

It probably is better, but the sources get worse everyday. Terrible.

[-] StillAlive@piefed.world 17 points 3 months ago

Set search date prior to 2019.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

That's a sound advice but sadly don't have that option on Images search.

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[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 months ago

DuckDuckGo did a site-wide poll about 6 months ago asking their users if they wanted AI or not. It was on their homepage. 90% answered "no".

What did they do in response? ... nothing. It didn't fit their preconceived notions and apparent agenda, so they've just completely ignored it. The customer is always right, except when they don't want AI, then they're just wrong.

[-] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 months ago

that poll was an ad for their noai service. nothing more.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Indeed, just funny that they bragged about how they were paying attention that most didn't want ai.. But still defaulted to ai instead of making the proclaimed unpopular one optional.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 33 points 3 months ago

Apparently, the "hide AI" only blocks some domains that are known to be generators of the images. I did a "waterbear" search and noticed that a number of the slop is on stock.adobe and storage.googleapis, which immediately makes them "clear" for the search

I still hate DDG for leaving the "show ai: yes" as the fucking default. Fuck them

[-] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I tried the search on both Ecosia and DDG using the HUGE AI Blocklist (linked elsewhere on this thread) and Ecosia seems to filter out the stock.adobe and googleapis images whereas DDG still lets them through.

What I want is a filter that can rid me of LLM-generated text on websites. I HATE looking for Linux-related stuff and getting that "high schooler giving a presentation" formatted crap that opens up telling me about why I'm seeking the information I've clicked the link for and then summarizes it all at the end.

EDIT: As I scroll a little further on Ecosia I see more obvious "AI" generated images... oh well. At least DDG lets you flag them.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

At least DDG lets you flag them.

Part of me thinks that's a ruse for micro$oft to train models, "oh, this one was too obvious, avoid making an image that looks like this!", what with ddg running bing

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 28 points 3 months ago

I was doing some arts and crafta with the girls, and i decided to use my photo printer to print them out some puctures of animals, wince they love animals. One of them said i want a funny bunny. So i searched for funny bunny. Holy shit, the result has absolutely disgusting to look at. Just animals were okay, but all it spat out was some boomer ass ai slop of "animals" i hate what the internet has become.

[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 22 points 3 months ago

Here's a free real bunny picture I took

[-] RogueBanana@piefed.zip 8 points 3 months ago

Hair on the back: Clearly too long Right ear: Weirdly shaped (AI hallucination) Towel in front: Looks very real but the texture is a dead giveaway The Rabbit: Very cute, ignore everything above because this is just a copypasta.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 15 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it's so so disturbing. Straight away nightmare fuel. It's so bad that a lot of these sources are auto-made by LLMs. And it's getting worse and worse. :(

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't know how they do it, but it is definitely worth your time to mass report these images. Maybe take about 10 minutes and just repirt at many as you can. That's what I do. Probably doesn't do much, but if enough images are flagged, I'd hope they take a look at the website and rule whether to block that site completely. It's what I would do if I were them.

Edit:

Saw in a reply that you have reported them. I personally think we should strive to create a society where genAI is consistently mass reported as what it is. And that starts with people like us.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

To be fair, it seems a lot of these images come from the same 2-3 sources. They just pollute the internet with their slop. I believe they have many other slop images for everything so blocking them would probably cut a lot of these results. They might not want to completely remove these sources because they actually have useful images as well but at this point DDG should just cut them out because they're heavily infected.

If this goes on, we probably end up with a curated human-centric small and limited internet at some point and it will be hard to protect it. That probably also means far from ads and SEO-based internet too, since that's what started the pollution in the first place.

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[-] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

It probably only filters for the machine readable markings that will be required in the EU starting next month.

But as soon as someone crops it in Photoshop it is indistinguishable from digital art made by humans

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[-] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I constantly search images and I can't find anything that consistently blocks AI. I've had better luck finding images through Yandex. Even regular web searches are garbage anymore.

I did try Kagi, but despite the raving from people I felt the improvement wasn't much.

Would love suggestions. I like privacy, but if I can't find shit, it's meaningless.

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

That's because there's no simple way to scan billions of images to determine their provenance.

Even glancing at your screenshot what's to say a lot of those aren't older artistic digital images?

This can be a fun learning example for you and the kid both. Download some massive packs of images online. Millions. Lump all of them into one single folder. Now sort them for common features, which were made with cameras, which were made digitally by a person, which are AI, etc.

[-] FedX@quokk.au 13 points 3 months ago

Recently did an image search on regular DDG, no AI filter, and was astonished by how much AI slop I got. Like, at least half the results were slop. The filter isn't great, but it's better than nothing.

[-] Yaky@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago

For legit and usable (CC licensed) images, I stick with Wikimedia Commons. Haven't seen any horrors yet.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

I'm suspicious of the whole "noai" thing, especially when it is championed by companies with presence in AI. What wouldn't these companies just capture the noai search revenue to overshadow alternatives, continue to invest all their profits into AI, then kill noai and go full AI when the ideologically pure alternatives have fallen?

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[-] huppakee@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Good job Adobe (upper right corner) for selling that super scientifically correct stock photo

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago

Bottom center too. Beaver teeth?!

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[-] muhyb@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

That's better. Thanks!

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[-] Marija@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

Labels should actually mean something.

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[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

In this case, you’re seeing “artistic interpretations” based on tardigrades? They do this with exoplanets too.

[-] shitwizard420@crazypeople.online 7 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure I understand, are you thinking they are all AI? At least some of them are not - I recognize them from the before times. Tardigrade images have always been goofy looking.

The adobe stock images are AI though. It's probably a safe bet to avoid stock image sites although Alamy seems to have some good ones. Adding the photography filter helps a bit too, but I still got some stock images used on other websites.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago

Of course not, but a lot of them are, which is not good enough for No AI search. Yeah, stock images got worse, they shouldn't be called "stock" anymore. We almost got to the dead internet part and it came so fast, it's mind boggling.

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 9 points 3 months ago

About the death of the internet, I have slowly stopped casually searching stuff. I almost exclusively search within known domains now :(

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

Well, that seems to be the only way to handle this. For now. :(

[-] shitwizard420@crazypeople.online 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fair, the adobe ones are labeled as AI if you ~~click through to the link so that's a pretty big miss in the search.~~

Edit: I retract my misinformed comment, I hadn't looked at how the filter works.

Stock images have always included bullshit renders of microbes so maybe that's just something I take for granted.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

If it's this obvious then it's on the search engine.

It's used to be fun to look at stock images. Now it's just disturbing.

[-] shitwizard420@crazypeople.online 8 points 3 months ago

I don't agree with that take.

https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/how-to-filter-out-ai-images-in-duckduckgo-search-results

We rely on publicly available lists to filter out AI-generated content, like those provided by uBlockOrigin & uBlacklist Huge AI Blocklist, an open-source blocklist, manually curated by project contributors.

This is an open source block list, which is manually put together by volunteers. It's not even reading metadata, presumably because that's too resource intensive (or proprietary/unreliable).

Gemini was able to tell that was AI because it was able to read the image ID water mark and associated it with how Adobe sequences AI generated images. The image ID is in the file name, but if we wanted to catch it that way the filter would need to work on logic, not just keywords or site lists. Programming a filter to search the file names to identify if it belonged to the sequence would be more complex.

Alternatively, if you clicked though to the image you are immediately told if it is AI. Whenever I search for microbe photos I always click the source to determine if it's a render or a stylized electron microscope capture, and I figure it's always been good practice to get the image from the source to verify it's not totally bullshit either in terms of the the search pulling up something unrelated or the image itself being misleading or even a humorous misrepresentation/meme.

I think it's important to understand how the tools we rely on work.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

I see. If it works on manpower that means we cannot catch up easily, which sucks. And it's possible that it will be overwhelming at some point, if not soon. I hate how internet become finding a diamond in garbage hills. And when you finally find the diamond, it can still be fake since we cannot tell at first sight. :/

Anyway, this is a real tech fight and we are in the middle of this. It seems curated internet what we'll need from now on.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 10 points 3 months ago

There's 21 images. Cautiously I'd identify at least 10 of them as AI generated. The issue is that there are any AT ALL with DDG's options set to hide AI generated images. That setting used to work really well.

[-] shitwizard420@crazypeople.online 7 points 3 months ago

Ironically, AI can tell me the adobe images are AI and why they don't get flagged in image search:

Yes, this image is AI-generated.

While checking the image file shows it was not made using Google AI tools specifically, it bears the official "Adobe Stock" watermark directly over an image ID (961863094) that belongs to Adobe's generative AI collection.

When downloaded directly from the official Adobe Stock platform, the full-resolution file contains embedded metadata acknowledging it as AI content, but this background data is lost when saving or extracting the preview image.

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 months ago

Hiding AI images works pretty well on my end.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago

Now do something microscopic and popular

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