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[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 months ago

We have already lost this war three times.

What are we still doing there???

[-] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 47 points 2 months ago

Experiencing the death throes of a dying global hegemony

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, getting into a war which reveals its hard power as being much less than the image most had of it before and which pisses of its allies, all of this eating away its soft power, it is a pretty traditional thing in the collapse stage of empires.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

... it is a pretty traditional thing in the collapse stage of empires.

it really goes to show that capitalism hasn’t broken the cycle since it shares the same fatal patterns as the empires that collapsed before it.

[-] tomiant@piefed.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Market manipulation and unprecedented levels of historical grift? Oh and sucking Israeli dick, that's a big one.

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Looking for the Epstein list?

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I think we just like the feel of the pain and we relish in the devastation of loss. There’s no other explanation.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago
[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

America and her government.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Looks like Iran need to keep teaching the burger reich that it can't fuck around without consequences.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

If they can, they should bomb the absolute shit out of israel. That's the only thing that will put a real stop to this.

[-] LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I mean, where's the lie

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[-] minty@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago

America just needs to take the L lmao

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

yes please. iran: please strike targets on american soil, too. the US needs to get its teeth kicked in and doing it on “bases” is just stupid.

[-] Edie@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago

The problem is that might galvanize the population (of the US) and increase support for the war.

[-] PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

That wouldn't affect the war just like lack of support for it didn't, population of US has no say on consequences of the wars their government wages, worrying about their support when it has no effect is meaningless

Let's hope they level the Pentagon to the ground instead of a primary girls only school

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

If Iran leveled the pentagon and nothing else I think the average american would support Iran more.

[-] Alkali@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I ... Don't believe you are correct here. The US has the most destructive military (non-nuclear) on the planet. The country simply does not have the appetite to actually commit blood, sweat, and money to this war. If they start striking the US, the US people will see it as an existential threat and be far more willing to dedicate as many resources as nessesary to eliminating the threat regardless of the fact that the US started it. That would be bad for everyone, but especially Iran.

It is far better to have the US population largely split in their support for the war effort.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

fair and true point. :/

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Consult a map, or a globe.

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[-] formlessoedon@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago
[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago
[-] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

visit https://presstv.com/ for a taste of freedom of speech … US is so free guys

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

what the heck they made presstv.ir inaccessible as well

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

I can access it over Tor with Netherlands endpoint

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Firefox says there's somekind of certificate issue

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Their certificate was revoked (by their certificate authority, Actalis, part of the Aruba Group) on July 6. Presumably the CA was pressured to revoke it by the Italian and/or US government, and they will get a new certificate from someone else soon.

There is a hexbear thread here about it; afaict there doesn't appear to yet be any reporting about it. But in the CRL you can see it was revoked July 6:

$ curl -s http://crl15.actalis.it/Repository/tls-subca-rsa-dv-2025/getLastCRL | openssl crl -noout -text |grep -A 4 02295E6BB25717C4652321F4ED9D2B29
    Serial Number: 02295E6BB25717C4652321F4ED9D2B29
        Revocation Date: Jul  6 13:54:09 2026 GMT
        CRL entry extensions:
            X509v3 CRL Reason Code: 
                Privilege Withdrawn

The reason "Privilege Withdrawn" means it was the CA's decision rather than their own.

Because certificate revocation has never worked very well, many people can still access it (until their browser fetches the certificate revocation list, or checks OCSP, does some newfangled proprietary other thing i don't understand...).

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

trump really painted himself into a corner here. He's probably starting to think it would've been better to just release all of the trump/epstein files. What a huge colossal waste for everybody on the entire planet.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Wait until he does that to distract from the draft for ww3

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Get our asses

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