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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 85 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Proof that rich people ain't the smarter

[–] deadbeef79000 74 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I reckon that, on average, they're stupider.

Having enough money means that mistakes have lower consequences. Which leads to having fewer opportunities to learn an important lesson.

E.g. caused an accident by driving unsafely. Poor: can't afford insurance, can't pay, lose car, lose job. Rich: uses other car. End result: rich person doesn't learn to drive safely.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Related. I had a rich older lady rear-end me once in her Mercedes coupe. Low speed in traffic moving through an intersection - but enough damage that I could see insurance would have to get involved. Cars in front of me are gridlocked, I get out and ask her if she's ok.

She says, "why did you stop?!". I'm a sarcastic bitch so I said - "see those cars in front of me? I can't drive through them." Her: "you hit my car!". Me: "uhhhhh (brain loading).. I was stationary, and in front of you. How can i have hit you?". Her: .. Me: "Look, the damage isn't bad, it's no big deal - insurance can sort it out. Accidents happen."

Her in her most patronising private school accent she could muster, "I don't have accidents".

Gotta admit that one threw me. I'd never heard that level of privilege, simply defying reality. We pulled aside when traffic started moving and she called her husband and handed the phone to me (I guess he's the fixer in the relationship).. he was more reasonable and we got details exchanged etc, but that conversation stuck with me.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yep, I’d that reality distortion field that really makes it special and creepy, not heat because their greater wealth allows them to support the distorted sense of reality, while also likely demanding more of it so that they can fit in with their wealthy social class.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Cops tend to believe whomever is whiter, then whomever is richer.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

They just live in a complete different world,a world where any other human being around is there to serve them

[–] smeenz 14 points 2 weeks ago

She doesn't have accidents - all her collisions are on purpose.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a survivorship bias at work too. Getting rich requires taking big risks. Smart people will know that odds of success are very low, so likely not worth the payoff. Stupid people are more likely to go for it, the vast majority will fail, but we only really see the successes.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The fuck it involve risk. Getting truly rich, like being a owner class and living from earnings, takes as much skill and luck as winning the lottery.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't that what I meant? Smart people are less likely to play the lottery because it probably won't provide a return. Buying regular lottery tickets hoping you'll eventually win is high risk.

[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn’t take a risk to get rich, most were just born rich. I think that’s what they meant by “got lucky.”

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah makes sense. I meant "get rich" more in the rags to riches sense, but could have been clearer.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ya don't gotta think when you got money!

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

Money is wasted on the rich.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

"I paid for AI to tell me to invest in AI. What could go wrong?"

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Every step you take further from reality, ie surrounding yourself with yes men, the dumber you get. This i promise you.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the real cost of running AI still isn't factored in.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope they all eventually get sued into the ground by environmentalists and protection agencies.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not even talking about externalized environmental and social costs, but like, the basic cost per unit of building data centers and training models. Even after raising prices they're still basically just burning investor cash, trying to reach escape velocity.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, everyone on the AI-train doesn't realize if they gain a dependency on AI from using a particularly model, the price of that model will just go up every year.

Enshittification is as predictable as gravity. These people are mentally no different than flat earthers.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And as DeepSeek showed, it isn't that hard to distill the great large AI model into something smaller that isn't controlled by a large AI company, making owning the compute made to build the model worthless.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm really wondering what the investment bankers are thinking on this. Everything they do is replicable.

If the rent gets too high, people will switch to cheaper models even if they're marginally less effective. And once a business starts running its own AI models on its own hardware, they're definitely not going to switch to a more expensive subscription.

There will never be an AI monopoly that will make back all the money they are burning trying to make a monopoly. I honestly don't get it it at all. I feel like the world has gone mad.

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't think, thats the problem and why we are here.

Or they are thinking really really hard and this is like many of the other articially juiced finical situations that let them rape and pillage the pockets of the average American. Just like how George sorros can flood currency values to control a market and profit off of the demise of others, I like to think every single financial crises going back 50+ years has been some kind of swindle that only the rich with enough money can benifit from.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was just reading a summary from a book published in 2016 that talks about this:

Chapter 2, "Why the Technological System Will Destroy Itself", develops the author’s theory of "self-propagating systems"—systems that compete against each other for power without any regard for the long-term consequences, since any self-propagating systems that take the long-term into account will lose their competitive edge and be out-competed by self-propagating systems that do not. Kaczynski ultimately argues that since the technological system itself is a self-propagating system composed of self-propagating subsystems that competes for power in the short-term without regard for the long-term negative consequences, that the logical conclusion of the continued growth of the technological system is the complete destruction of the biosphere, wiping out all complex lifeforms.

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I hope they get in trouble for all their crimes and the ceos have to spend the maximum possible sentence in prison with no parol before 100 years.

Theres fraud, generation of csam, verbal sexual abuse of minors, murder, spying on civilians without a warrant, war crimes on children in Gaza so trump can build a hotel there, assisting in the creation and running of internment camps. And that's ignoring the glaringly obvious issues like the theft of pretty much all intellectual properties, or price fixing on rent, food, etc.

With the amount of crimes ai is responsible for we might as well set up some kind of trial, similar to Nuremberg for elon musk, Sam Altmann, mark zuckerburg, etc etc.

In cyberpunk if ceos are found guilty they are sentenced to death. In China when you become too big for your own good you don't get welcomed into the boys club with open arms. They kill you and take your shit. We need more of that energy.

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

"But I was told AI would never ask for a raise!"

[–] Tartufo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't need to ask for a raise if it bankrupts you with the first bill.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stop teasing me with hope :,)

[–] Tartufo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

We could try and spread it as "trust me bro this happened at my cousin's company". Maybe we can manage to scare the managers. If we write often enough that some company got bankrupted from a single ai-company bill these statistics-based-word-vomit-programs are bound to eventually regurgitate this story and then people will start to believe it.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

'ai' won't. the greedy bastards you're renting time on it from will.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

- Who told you that?

- Grok. Why?

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

A CEO wouldn't... Nay couldn't possibly mislead another CEO just for profits sake... Right?

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh no! An exec may not get their bonus package?!

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 17 points 2 weeks ago

Now now, let's not be too hasty. They can probably make up for the cost by just doing some more layoffs. Or, in the worst case, getting a taxpayer bailout. No need to go around putting the sacred executive bonuses on the line.

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Oh they will, after they’ve ”successfully reduced spending” by firing the remainder of the staff. And then they’ll ”retire” (get booted) with a huge severance package.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We should replace execs for free with a polished pebble. Everybody loves pebbles, even otters!

[–] brainwashed@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

They can still be found in nature. If you're quick, you can get one before the rush starts.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Futurism's writing isn't always spot on.

But their headlines are usually pretty good. This one's a banger.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Given what Facebook and Google did, it might be that the believed their own hype a bit too much.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

You love to see it.

"The consequences of my actions?!"

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's possible if the problem has a narrow solution space that's well defined, something like alpha fold but otherwise it's not yet currently possible to sufficiently replace workers, we don't actually have AGI yet, much less AGI that costs less than a flesh and blood employee.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, that's just plain wrong. Alphafold is not an llm, it is not replacing any jobs. Nobody's job was folding proteins in every conceivable way. Without a doubt in my mind, alphafold is creating additional lines of research, which means more researchers, more grants, more papers to write. Nothing like that is happening with generative ai, and the continued insistence from ai bros that talking to a chatbot should also count as science is driving me up a wall.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Never claimed it was and LLM. People's job was through multiple means trying to discover the shape of proteins. There are a lot of ways to apply NN to take over labor people were doing before. Particularly with general purpose robotics but many other nonphysical tasks can similarly be automated, like searching a solution space.

The conflation of neural networks and large language models is the most common way I see people claim talking to chatbots as science. You know damn well what 'ai' means in this context: the article is about chatbots, not NN in general, certainly not robotics.

People's job was through multiple means trying to discover the shape of proteins

Oh, and they were replaced? The neural network publishes papers now? That's ridiculous. It's a tool that unlocks new science, no researcher is throwing up their hands like 'oh, whelp, guess alphafold is the future, no need for me anymore!'

Gish gallop response, just as I expected.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When will these lying dumbshits learn that all the other C-suits are lying dumbshits too?

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ah but you see, they're not AS smart as me. Because I'm above average. /S