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[–] Doom@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Sometimes it's not because of trauma or being raised by narcissists. Sometimes it's because you're neurodivergent and asking for/accepting help lands you in a minefield of social rules, obligations, AND SMALL TALK that require a lot of excess work, time, and goddamn mental energy to navigate when all you wanted to do was move a stupid couch and go back to your day.

OR you could spend five quiet minutes to do it alone with a clever work around that involves none of that garbage.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If you were raised by narcissistic you wont ask for help either. Help always came with pain. Mostly emotional.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do you need help?

No I don't want to owe you anything later.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

No thats not it. The help you get is minimal and often not what you need. During and for sometime after the "help" you are hit with a constant barrage of statements meant to make you feel inadequate. Although they make sure to bring it up in front of others to prove that they are such good and generous people.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

because a lot of us have learned that, while we have to be there for everyone and everything, no one will ever be there for us no matter what.

So we endure and improvise.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Sometime in my late 20s early 30s, I was told hyper independence is a sign of trauma. I've been working to trust people more, but it's tough.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I was told hyper independence is a sign of trauma

Oh, I know.

[–] Balldowern@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

This is exactly how I feel.

[–] Beth@piefed.social 10 points 10 hours ago

Have I done it? Yes. Do I regret it? Also yes. Did I once decline my very fit neighbors offer to help move a large item because my brain said “don’t bother them they are so nice”….unfortunately. I am getting older and stating to come around to the idea of accepting assistance, so I paid someone to move some of my heavy furniture this time.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm trying to work on it lol.

[–] TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

She's all wrong.

Flip that couch and place it in the middle on top of the office chair, no need to lift anything as long as she can keep it balanced.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago

I would absolutely stop and help which is why I never ask for help, because even though I would stop to help I don't want to.

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

JD Vance: doesn't ask.

[–] AcidBurn@retrofed.com 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe she just wanted to know if it's possible

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If she was actually a scientist, someone would be walking next to her, taking notes.

[–] AcidBurn@retrofed.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Or she was just challenging herself

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago

Once I had a new washing machine delivered to me, except the delivery was to the curb. I lived under a roof in an old building with high ceilings, at what counted as 6th floor. And a teeny tiny elevator going up to 4th.

So I dragged it in the elevator, and then 4 flights of stairs. All alone, and even rejecting a neighbor's offer of help.

Anyways here's a song.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't want to inconvenience anyone

[–] anzo@programming.dev 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Many people would feel good about helping out. Keep that in mind. I try to think about it when offered help. Else I was always saying no, and it turns out it may also be a trauma response. My braing being used to doing things myself, not wanting to feel dependant, or -as it was said- bothering others (I am a people pleaser)

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 28 points 21 hours ago

I don’t want to be inconvenienced.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 73 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? She's got this.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 73 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Not only does she got this, she's being extra efficient by moving two pieces of furniture at once!

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

It's not even about efficiency. I suspect that this is easier on her back, because she doesn't have to keep pace with someone who doesn't coordinate with her and who makes sudden, unexpected moves that cause her to wrench her back. As someone who has lifted a lot of heavy things in his life, I always find it easier and less painful to move something on my own whenever possible.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DeeBeeDouble@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

"And always remember: Efficiency first!"

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

You often save time by doing it your self. Mayby not on the one specific task, but in the long run. Because if you ask for, or accept an offer for help, it's expected to return the favor at some point. So the time saved on one task, now has to be used at some other time on some unkown task (that might take even more time than you saved in the first place).

Also take into account, that it often involves socializing around the event, which is now doubled.

And as an introvert, I value my alone time like others value money. I constantly evaluate how to use less on things I don't want or need.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

ah, but you have to account for the opportunity cost of socialization that you do want.

the event itself now becomes socializing, as you said, which means you don't have to go socialize on another separate occasion. and because this is a defined task, you can say "well we're done here" and cut it off.

I'm an introvert, but I still like to spend time with friends in limited amounts. I would much rather somebody help me with a task for an hour or two than go hang around with no defined task for a couple hours. I like having something to do

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Apart from the socializing time, the time to help the helper doesn't accumulate as time spent on your end because the helper will help again speeding up another task of yours. In the long run the time saved from receiving help and the time spent from helping would balance out. The socializing time is lost and accumulates. With that said, there are tasks that are impossible or take significantly more than double when done alone compared to when done with a helper. That could very well make up for the lost socializing time. Now add specialization where you help in tasks that you're good at and the helper does the same for you and those tasks end up done way faster than without help. And that's why we invented division of labour, which allowed us to turn nature into useful stuff much faster than before. 😄

I don't ask for help enough. Replaced a toilet yesterday and my back is complaining today.

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I'm not afraid of asking for help when I'm not capable of doing it myself. But usually I would rather pay some professional to do it. That way I can complain if it's not done correctly. That's a bit harder if you had a friend do it for free.

If I think I just lack a bit of knowledge to do it myself, I do a bit of research and jump right into it. That way I learn new skills and become even more independent.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I once rented a truck and hauled my queen-size mattress and box-spring an hour away by myself so I didn't have to talk to anyone

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Haha, good one. I once managed to replace my refrigerator by myself. Carrying both the old and new one up and down five steps of stairs and across 15 meters (50 ft) of courtyard.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

absolute fact

[–] M137@lemmy.today 16 points 19 hours ago

Often because doing what the image represents is easier than asking an extrovert and handling all the shit that comes with that.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 31 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I just did this a couple of days ago to move a cedar chest. It works just fine.

[–] 69420@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Until you have to do across the grass.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

Or across a lake

[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago

Leave me alone ok? I gotta talk about something with my therapist.

[–] gnu@lemmy.zip 18 points 23 hours ago

Sounds relatable. Last time I moved I even had several people offer in advance to help but I ended up doing almost everything by myself because I just wanted to be able to do things at my own pace and make sure I was happy with where everything went.

I'd recommend having a furniture dolly and an upright trolley rather than relying on an office chair though, proper tools make the job much easier.

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