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Looks like Trump is getting more than he bargained for when taking on BBC.

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[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 208 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The BBC responded to the trust Wednesday in a court filing opposing the request to pause the order, arguing it “is a transparent effort to evade this Court’s clear and direct order and to continue to avoid the discovery obligations that Plaintiff took on when he chose to file this lawsuit.”

Wouldn't someone in the US with a passing familiarity of lawsuits and who has been in court innumerable times have an inkling about the discovery phase?

I recognize President Pedophile is incredibly stupid, in addition to being a horrible human being. But I'm struggling to see how he could have made this mistake. Additionally, he has lawyers. This is incredible.

Good on the BBC for fighting this.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 95 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm hoping the beeb wins and gets everything they want. It will signal to other entities he's threatened with lawsuits that he's a stuffed shirt (and how!) that has more dirt to hide than they do.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 week ago (6 children)

UK law is much more open to discovery than the US, and losers pay. Betcha Trump didn't know that.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago

Oh, if that's the case, when he loses, he'll be chewing what's left of his hair.

Trump HATES paying for anything.

I've been in the Trades since 1980 and for years, the running snarky aside about him went "If you want to know whether Trump pays his bills, ask any electrician in New Jersey.."

Apparently he's gone through a lot of them and stiffed quite a few over the decades.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This case is in the US courts.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yep. That's one of the BBC's many arguments, that this case is being heard in the wrong place (Florida Southern District, Miami):

the BBC’s position that Plaintiff’s claim is improperly before this Court, as the Documentary was never broadcast in Florida or the United States (page 15)

It's worth a skim for anyone interested in these things; the number of ways he's trying to cheat, play dirty, and just manipulate the process are overwhelming.

[–] DuncanTheDrunk@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh a Florida Southern District court? Wonder why they chose that location.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

As the plaintiff, Trump chose it. As the BBC notes, the offending documentary was never shown in the US. Presumably they've chosen the venue where the supposed harm occurred, but as he's scrambling desperately to avoid having to prove that harm occurred, who fucking knows, lol.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He thought the BBC would roll over like when he sued ABC and they just paid him 15 million and apologized to him. Or when he sued CBS and they paid him 16 million. The issue is that BBC is funded from taxpayer money and I don't think the British taxpayers would be very happy with them paying Trump.

[–] toph@feddit.uk 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also, as a foreign broadcaster the Trump-controlled FCC can’t threaten the BBC’s license. I think this is a factor in the US-based broadcasters rolling over.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Don't you mean the "land of the free"-based broadcasters? Lol

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[–] wool0698@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not quite tax payer money, we pay a licence fee to be able to watch live broadcast which funds the BBC (they also get a vast amount of money from licensing shows overseas). But your point is true that the public would be pissed if they just rolled over and paid without fighting Trump

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yep.
I'm a licence payer and not only would I be very upset if the BBC just paid the raging orange paedo, I also want to offer my services to fight that fat cunt.

I mean physically. I don't have the money to win in court, however I'd be verrrrry happy to throw hands.
Very happy.
You have no way to gauge how happy I'd be to punch that useless pile of wobbling dementia riddled barrel of rape and corruption.

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[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

ABC did that on purpose. They knew they could use the settlement as a disguised bribe to get preferential treatment from Trump. That was worth more than the legal battle that would drag on for years and net them nothing. He still hasn't paid E. Jean Carroll. He certainly wouldn't have paid out the ABC case.

What they did is the equivalent of paying a crooked cop. It's textbook racketeering. "Pay me and we'll protect you." -every one of the 5 families.

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[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not a mistake.

He's a bully. He thinks he can get away with it, so he does it...because he usually gets away with it.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He will drop the case before he has to submit evidence for discovery.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Additionally, he has lawyers.

Lawyers he refuses to listen to because he thinks he's "smarter than them".

[–] bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

They just know they'll be replaced if they disagree with him

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Also I have a feeling the smart ones tend to avoid working for him.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

He doesn't file lawsuits to actually win them, he files them as intimidation. He expects the other side to cave, and to settle. I tried to search for lawsuit Trump actually won on their merits, without a negotiated settlement, and could only find one that was a default judgement (so the other side didn't even show up).

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

he has lawyers

Despite what he may claim, not the biggest, brightest lawyers. We're talking Rudy Giuliani, Pam Bondi, Kenneth Chesebro, and Alan Dershowitz.

[–] ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago

None of whom are allowed to practice law any more.

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[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm sure you have seen this, but he hires based on loyalty, not competence.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

This. Competent lawyers won't touch him with a ten foot pole. The ones he's used up to now have generally failed. He usually squirms his way out of lawsuits in other ways.

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's banking on the news not making it over here since he pretty much controls all of the media now.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's why I go to the BBC for my local (American) news.

ANY news agency except American is better. We did it to ourselves.

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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I recognize President Pedophile is incredibly stupid, in addition to being a horrible human being. But I'm struggling to see how he could have made this mistake. Additionally, he has lawyers.

He's burned through many lawyers and there are few reputable or intelligent lawyers left who might be willing to light their careers on fire. Sure, he might find one willing to trade their career for whatever benefits they might get (or maybe they just have a hard on for fascism, which often means they are fucking stupid too), but most of his lawyers have, eventually, been left holding a flaming bag of shit while Trump transparently lies and pretends he has never heard of them or has heard they aren't very good.

It's happening to pretty much the entire fucking justice department. It used to be a very sought after career. Now they are giving fresh grads signing bonuses and then shuffling them into the meat grinder and sacrificing their reputation to further the administration's nakedly corrupt agenda. "Hey, new kid, I need you to take this case." Turns out the case is about some poor immigrant that been detained for months and then deported despite having court orders protecting him from deportation... that were clumsily bypassed with unsigned orders or some other bullshit. New kid sits in front of a frustrated judge yelling at him and the kid can only say "I don't know what happened" and go home and cry into his pillow.

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[–] Wunz@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He's not gonna take that BBC lying down!

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He'll wiggle and worm for all he's worth but then drop the suit before they can climax.

I hope they counter sue for their defense costs and as much more as they possibly can. I wonder if the BBC counter suing him on the grounds that this lawsuit from him was filed based on a lie (his imaginary $10b loss), he failed to comply with the court order to disclose finances to prove the loss he himself had claimed, and then when the judge refused to stay that order he ended up dropping his case entirely would be a way to try to force the same financial record disclosure?

I'd imagine not under normal circumstances, the burden of proof being on the one suing... but with that chain of events and every historic estimate of Trump's net worth having been far less than that claimed $10B loss... it seems like it might be possible.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

How would you know, those files have been redacted.

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[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Looks like Trump is getting more than he bargained for when taking on BBC.

Which BBC we talking about here?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

This is the correct response.

[–] golinux@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ProdigiousInsanity@lemmus.org 7 points 1 week ago

Oh please, take the time to transpose Trump's and pipers head!

[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Gosh, it would be a shame if all his financial records got released without his consent. You know… like all the names and personal information of the Epstein victims.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They will seal them all. Says in the court filings that even if released to BBC many can't be made public.

Because rich people are in charge of the United States so whatever they want goes.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wasn't aware that the BBC isn't 'Murican

I mean, he's a fucking idiot, after all

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Trump is afraid of BBC.

Use this headline as you will.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I think he'll drop the suit so that he doesn't have to disclose the tax documents. You know he's committing tax fraud, and if those docs are released, the world will know. That won't affect him now, but it will in 2.5 years.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah he may have gotten away with real-estate fraud, tax fraud, election fraud, rape, stealing classified documents, literally coup attempts against congress, but he won't get away with tax fraud.

[–] fake@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I sincerely hope he will face no consequences in 2.5 years. On accounts of painfully and painstakingly slowly dying 2.49 years prior.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's something so beautiful to see about him hanging himself with his own rope, because of his stupidity and arrogance

I look forward to his death, and I hope that it hurts the whole time

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Dump expected the British media to just roll over like the media does here in the States.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I would love to have his backers outed as well.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The terrible BBC I call them, horrible people and a bad outlet and I'm told, going under any day now! Big business guy, friend of mine the other day told me they're not doing too - well. In dire... dire straights and about to go... under. The terrible BBC!

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

I keep saying that these defendants should stop settling, and start demanding their day in court, with a FEROCIOUS discovery, and a countersuit to make him cover the legal costs if he loses.

Then REFUSE to settle, or drop the case. Follow it all the way through, you know he'll never win.

Fight fire with a Supernova.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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