The top 3 states with the highest murder rate are Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama, all red states. The 3 states with the lowest murder rates are Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont. All blue states.
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Lol do education next plz 😊
And healthcare.
They're pretty much the same picture?
Yeah, but that's only because everyone in Maine keeps getting killed by Stephen King monsters, and those are tracked as accidental deaths.
I'm not sure I would call NH and Maine blue states. They are more purple. E.g., both chambers of the NH legislature have Republican majorities right now.
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I've got a friend from Louisiana and the way she describes it is terrifying including lots of murders. She feels so much safer in her blue city in the PNW
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Ah yes.....the old "this is what socialism looks like" argument while pointing at capitalism. Been hearing that a lot lately.
It has worked for them for like 100 years, why would they stop?
Most of the kidnappings, beatings, and shootings are taking place in blue states.
If you take ICE out of the equation blue states are much safer than red.
1000% incorrect. Texas is awash in illegal state run kidnappings right now but they're all brown people so no one gives a shit.
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ICE is insignificant compared to overall crime rates. The blue states have lower crime rates no matter how you slice it.
I'm through giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt. They're not anti-crime at all; they're just racist, that's all there is to them.
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It extends well beyond the US. If you look at the comments on anything Olivia Chow (leftist mayor of Toronto) posts, you'd think that a stroll to the supermarket is comparable to a few laps of Death Race. Sprinkled with thinly veiled racism of course.
The only time I feel unsafe anywhere in Los Angeles is when a cop comes nearby, I try to ride a bike outside of a park, the cloud of tear gas the cops shot starts blowing towards me, when I am too close to orange county, when when I see someone who looks like they're from orange county, when I pass a Tesla, when its 3 am (7 pm in Venice beach) and the taco trucks are all closed and I'm hungry and a little drunk and there's just nothing to be done.
Or when the feds jump out and try to disappear somebody. That's pretty jarring.
Edit: also when the utility company given a state enforced monopoly decides to set half the city on fire and its really pretty but you know the carcinogens in that smoke be craaaaazy. Or when there's a lot of wind and I think for a split second it might be another earthquake. Or when the cops spam the emergency alert channel with 'please do our jobs for us' even though I set it to 'serious fucking danger only'. Or when the cops just blow up a fucking neighborhood. They do that sometimes. And I wasn't here for it but when the CIA was flooding the city with crack and having the cops move it around for them I bet it was legit scary.
Or when the feds jump out and try to disappear somebody. That’s pretty jarring.
The part that's actually turning our cities into a warzone.
I like how your example of "well beyond the US" is a city which is physically visible while still standing in the States.
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In the states. The blue states call the red states the "welfare states." Simply put, the 5 blue states pay for ALL the red states services combined because they're so poor and dilapidated and broken and uneducated. Poor little fellas vote so heavily against their own interests, they should be so lucky to have those 5 blue states.
Last time I checked Florida & Texas were exempt from that particular "all red states" grouping.
Yes, but Texas has 3 major population centers which are all pretty blue, not just Austin, and has benefited from destroying the environment through the sale of oil, which definitely subsidized itself a little (incidentally Texas should be the wealthiest per capita state if they’d socialized their oil sales instead of allowing like 3 guys in charge of 3 companies to make 90% of the money). Florida has a decent population and gets a lot of tourism money, so arguably is subsidized by external funds still.
I think the largest red city in Texas is Lubbock, which is in fact a complete shit hole. You are more than x2 as likely to be a victim of a violent crime in Lubbock than in Austin.
Even if Texas had put all the oil into a sovereign fund, like at least one of the scandanavian states, I don't think they would come close to beating Alaska, at least not per capita. AK just has way more oil and way fewer people than TX
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Florida and Texas receive massive federal subsidies, paid for with the taxes generated, primarily, from these blue states.
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I visit NYC often to see family, and a business acquaintance is always amazed. He honestly thinks NYC is a warzone, with constant gunfire, random assaults, pollution, gangs, etc.
I have to tell him that crime in our Florida city is far worse than what happens in NYC. Some psychopath kills a BABY in our city about once a week. Random gunfire has interrupted public events several times in the past few years. One year there was a panic stampede because a firecracker went off, and people ran, because it's very possible it was gunfire. Things like that never happen in NYC.
BTW, this person also brags that he's never left the state in his entire life. Why would he? The rest of America is too dangerous. He's also an enthusiastic, unapologetic MAGA, and believes every word of their propaganda.
I live near Seattle and nextdoor is filled with people who live less than an hour away that are absolutely convinced we're all dodging bullets daily in the city. You show them data that not only is the city safer than ever but red states in general are more dangerous, they respond with extreme skepticism and outright denial of facts. Heard "there's no crimes if you don't report them" way too much, like people aren't reporting murders.
there's no crimes if you don't report them
Gaslight
Obstruct
Project <-- we are here, just substitute covid tests for crimes
Which funny enough does happen in rural red areas. When everybody knows everybody there's incentive not to report crimes.
And yeah I go to Seattle from time to time and once I got used to the graffiti and the occasional unwell/intoxicated homeless person I've felt safer there than many parts of red states, even beyond my being queer. People will just tell you stories of horrific crimes from their small town and which people and places to avoid and you're just like "how do you have enough people to have a bad part of town"
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When the Idiot Cult says cities are a "warzone", what they really mean is "black people are often living in cities and I am a racist POS who thinks all black people are criminal thugs."
Its nothing more or less.
Its just racism. MAGA is a racist cult of idiots.
Probably the same suburban people who think 3 black people within a half-mile radius of each other constitutes gang activity
It's also just what they're told on Fox News, etc., most of them have never set foot in a major US city.
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Every city run by the left looks like a warzone
Where are they getting this shit from? Oh wait, I know. The mindless repetition still boggles the mind.
I like how the Norwegian feigns ignorance (or so I choose to read it):
Are you ina civil war or something? 🤪
Where are they getting this shit from? Oh wait, I know.
Yep. Absolutely constant repetition from Fox News. Didn't you hear, Portland has completely burned down at least 5 times already. Boy, they sure are good at rebuilding it from the ashes, though -- you can barely tell when you visit! (These people never visit the 'warzone' cities.)
Haven't you seen the no kings rallies and the anti ice protests?
Literal warzones, disobeying the overlord and his goons
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When people look back at this time in a historical sense. They will see and understand that we ARE in a civil war right now. It has already started and only one side is fighting. The enemy is slowly dividing us and putting their enemies in CONCENTRATION CAMPS one by one.
A Civil War waged on us by t He very same remnants of the confederate traitors that we were nice to and let live after their TREASON.
We've been in a civil war since the Confederacy, it just went cold for a while. We never actually defeated the treasonous slavers or even held them accountable.
We've written off so much harm in the name of national healing. But sometimes an important part of healing is cutting off the rot.
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I live in downtown Chicago but I occasionally take work in Springfield or Bloomington (which are small towns in central Illinois). The difference is night and day. Chicago is s vibrant beautiful city with beautiful people walking around at all hours of the day. The rural parts of Illinois are GHOST TOWNS. I walk around in the middle of the day in the middle of downtown and there's literally nobody around. The food sucks. The handful of people I run into are very nice tho.
Red towns are nuts. That whole "hey there sugar" small town feeling is not true at all.
In my state, one town in particular had to beg residents to stop calling the police on tourists. Another town had their mayor do the whole "This does not represent the town" after a bunch of dudes in pick up trucks harassed businesses owned by PoC.
Another town, two years back, the drama was a big pro-gun town but the moment a brown dude with a rifle walked around, the sheriff swarmed them.
Red towns aren't safe at all.
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They don't say things because they believe them to be true. They say things for the effect they want it to have. They lie. Or maybe just bullshit, because they don't care about truth at all.
Where is this socialism, I’m dying to see it.
I’d love to hear what these people think socialism is.
we should've let the South seceed
We should have let Sherman keep going.
MAGA folk do not struggle with reality. They cannot even see reality from where they are.
I moved from Chicago to a ruby red part of a purple state and I regularly hear about how bad blue cities/states are from people who are afraid to go to their local grocery store without a gun on their hip.
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Go through impiverished areas of rural Alabama and tell me red states are better.
What cities are even run by "the left"? Or as usual do they just mean "anyone left of Hitler"
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