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Someone brought a guillotine to a city council meeting in Salem, Oregon on July 27, 2026. Not a sign shaped like one. Not a drawing. According to community accounts and social media posts, an actual guillotine structure appeared at the protest outside Loucks Auditorium, where hundreds of residents had gathered to oppose a proposed multi-billion-dollar AI data center. Company representatives reportedly assessed the scene and left, citing safety concerns — though that detail hasn't appeared in formal news coverage or official minutes.

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[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 125 points 1 month ago

Violence is literally the only thing that works on the wealthy and the right wing. Don't even bother speaking.

[-] decolo@piefed.social 70 points 1 month ago

I believe the consensus is that a successful popular movement needs 3 elements:

  • a nonviolent protest movement to communicate and build support with the broader population
  • a political party to communicate and enable negotiations with the opposing group
  • a militant wing to provide a threat that incentivizes negotiations

Without the popular front, the political and militant groups will lose support of the population as well as their recruitment pipeline.

The political party can reduce the amount of violence and deprivation required to achieve objectives, by setting clear goals.

Without the militants, the opposing power already has a monopoly on violence and has no incentive to come to the table peacefully.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ethiopia managed to keep the British out with something very similar.

There was a bit of a snafu, and the British sent soldiers to accompany a diplomatic envoy.

The Ethiopians made a big show of marching soldiers around the British while the diplomats negotiated.

The message was clear "we are not interested in violence, we will however use it."

The British left. They managed to keep the Italians out by kicking their ass. Repeatedly.

Non violent protest can work, if the implicit message is that "We will resort to violence if we need to. We are doing you a favor by being peaceful, do not mistake our kindness for submission."

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 24 points 1 month ago

Non violent protest can work, if the implicit message is that "We will resort to violence if we need to. We are doing you a favor by being peaceful, do not mistake our kindness for submission."

I think this is the key, unfortunately.

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 8 points 1 month ago

That's one model!

Still gotta kill the wealthy.

[-] decolo@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That can be negotiated! As a century+ of American foreign policy demonstrates, you can't just ride up and wax the existing power structures and call it a day.

You have to have something ready to replace it or you'll get the same thing again but worse.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I got it. We keep exactly the same system, except every time someone amasses a net worth exceeding say, 100 million dollars, we drag them behind a truck in front of everyone who considers themselves "upper" middle class. Every year we pick someone at random who's worth at last 50 million and do the same thing.

You know, like The Lottery, but all you have to do to avoid it is not hoard wealth.

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 3 points 1 month ago

The thing is there's like a hundred things yo do instead.

I'm not telling you how to live your life. I'm telling you that if you keep going like this, you won't have one.

[-] Cherry@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

I think too many people think that negotiation is enough it’s not. Unfortunately we do need social tension as the rich recurrently take advantage.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

It's how the Suffragists finally got heard.

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 7 points 1 month ago

It's literally the only way to negotiate with the powerful.

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They aren't arguing in good faith and don't want to change their opinion so force has now become nessisary.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

They fear ONLY for their personal well-being, they don't even care about their own kids.

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[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You must speak before you fight, its the first step on the escalation ladder.

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[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 36 points 1 month ago

I'm ok with them feeling unsafe.

[-] Cherry@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago

I am ok with them becoming physically unsafe.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Yep, my hair is almost white from the stress they've put me and everyone else in, they should feel a little stress in return

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I want them to feel unsafe all the way up to the blade drop. Actually they say the brain stays on for a few seconds after so until the eyes stop blinking.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago

Power to the people. When the government fails is it is the duty of the people to exercise their power

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

So do the citizens...

That's why they brought a fucking guillotine.

Like, this is the result of all the shit they're pulling with bribing politicians and having them arrest anyone who talks back at meetings.

People aren't just going to lay down and take, at a certain point when the 0.01% keep violating the social contract, everyone else adapts to the new reality

It's like a little kid who cheats at Monopoly and loves the game, nothing can make them stop cheating and they always insistnon playing.

You fix that by cheating back just as hard, ruin the kids game, and teach them that if everyone plays by the rules we all have fun.

If a few refuse the rules, everyone else refuses the game.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Short of Monopoly ever being a fun game, I agree. Push people far enough, and they'll push back.

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

"The poors are making tasteless and threatening jokes here. Let us retreat to our hilltop mansions and simply increase our payments to the local council so they deal with the riffraff for us."

[-] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

If the rich fascists are scared now, wait til we start using the fucking things.

[-] Kryptkravler@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago
[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't like the comparison this suggests, because it paints the data-center protestors as fascist overlords.

[-] Snowies@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Person who posted the meme doesn’t understand the movie on that level lol

They just remember a scene when the good guys confront the big bad and the movie’s psychic golden boy announces that it’s scaewed.

[-] Ramsesder13te@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

Good analogy. One ugly creature is scared but were still fucked...

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

They should start chopping up watermelons with it and be like “what guillotine?”

[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 25 points 1 month ago

Good. Keep doing this everywhere.

[-] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago
[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

As he should, and he should stay away from now on too.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago
[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Okay, does this mean that they're conceding an effective means to counter their money?

[-] cyclonedusk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

and STAY out.

This is really shitty reporting.

It doesn't mention anywhere that the guillotine was not functional. They make it sound like it could have been used. It was a prop.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Better that the shitheads think it's operational. Let them lose sleep over what's coming.

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[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Sounds more like a shitty resistance. You can't behead the overlords with a prop.

[-] raze2012@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I think it's funnier that they felt unsafe around a prop. Let the symbolism sink in.

[-] chahn.chris@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

But you could grab the overlords and put them in the prop and try?

It might even hurt more that way!

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

Death by a thousand bludgeons?

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[-] raze2012@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It doesn’t mention anywhere that the guillotine was not functional.

I just looked at the social media post. It's a tiny scale guillotine. It'd struggle to slice anything larger than a carrot. The blade probably isn't even real, nor made to come down.

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