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[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 154 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Didn't Mythbusters test all of these covers and coatings in like 2004 and basically none of them worked against a traffic cam of that era?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (9 children)

It'll pretty much only do anything against a camera using a flash in the dark and even then that's probably only marginal. In normal daytime illumination everyone and every thing will still be able to see your plate just fine.

I think I'd rather get a color e-ink display from China and mount it in a fake license plate frame, with a microcontroller behind it displaying a random assortment of plate styles and numbers as you drive along. If you see the 5-0, flip a the switch to lock it to your real plate number until they go away.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 87 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cops have car mounted plate readers. If you see them, its already too late.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, you won't see the drone

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 46 points 1 day ago

And the ICE guy waiting to shoot you in the face

[–] imadethis@fedinsfw.app 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless your e-ink display has some pretty magical properties, it's going to be spotted by a cop at random sooner or later, whether that's at a traffic light, on the highway behind you, or even if they just roll by at a parking lot.

Plus, I can assure you that the technology to instantly alert if a car shows a registration for, let's say a blue honda, but looks like a red ford, has been around for longer than flock has been in the news. It's why that shit with texas temporary license plates was such a big deal (you'd see them everywhere throughout the continent). Unless you have a way to know what other cars similar to yours have for their license plates, you're going to get nabbed. And most places make your switching thing a pretty big deal as far as punishments go.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Plus, I can assure you that the technology to instantly alert if a car shows a registration for, let’s say a blue honda, but looks like a red ford

Ironically, I traded in my blue Honda for an orange Ford and drove it unregistered for almost an entire year and never got pulled over.

Dealership said the would handle switching the plates and registration, and didn't do it. I only found out when I went to renew my reg.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I used to live in Louisiana and I drove there for three years with an expired out of state license plate and no insurance. Finally got pulled over, told the cops I just forgot about that stuff, and got off with a $125 ticket. If I'd had a bit more melanin I'd still be in Angola prison today.

[–] ReignOfTerror@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You didn't find it weird that you never received any documents for the car in the mail for a YEAR?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

No I did find it weird. I also found it weird that my DMV has a 6 hr wait time, and I had other shit to do with my life. Plus, I don't really buy cars all that frequently, so I'm not exactly sure what to expect when the reg gets flipped over. It's not out of the question to assume that it was done online. I never even got temp plates, the dealership said it would be fine to use my old plates.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You would need a mix of IR absorbing material and IR reflective material like what they use in Zenni ID guard glasses.

An easier way to go about it would just be to install a bright IR light pointed at your plate, it would create a glare that would make it impossible for the camera to read.

I have an IR scope for one of my rifles and thought it would be a bright idea to install a IR flashlight to help boost the field of vision....... The flashlight I got was so bright that it just tuned the whole image white.

So there are things that would work, but it would probably get you in more trouble than anything. It's illegal in every state to attempt to obscure your tags from being tracked in any way.

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[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. You also need a ring of high intensity white LEDs pointed at your plate.

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 16 points 1 day ago

And the flocks are IR cameras, so better would be broadcasting a ton of IR light around your license plate. That being said, the camera also looks for type/size of rims and tires, window tint, visible damage, bumper stickers, dirt level, so while your license plate blocking may stop it from looking you up it won't stop it from tracking where you're going

I just cover my entire car with flexible screens and cameras. The image from one side of the car is displayed on the images of the other side of the car. Can't track a car if you can't even tell a car is there at all! I'm sure this will have absolutely no downsides whatsoever.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I’m willing to bet if it did do something useful, you would just make yourself a target for frequent stops by cops.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What the cops in NYC do is they wedge a leaf in the plate frame, so there's always a leaf partially blocking 1 letter.

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

Leave it to the fucking pigs to come up with a somewhat reasonable, plausibly deniable way to avoid the law.

The Chinese, I ve heard use a magnetic leaf that can be remotely turned off.

Magic ...

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The foolproof solution is to sneak up to the camera, at night, with no electronics on your person, and shoot the fucking thing down.

[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, they make manual pipe cutters. They're not that expensive and operate silently. No reason to activate the shot spotter microphones

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I recently watched a video about the quickest and quietest way to cut through thin wall tube, that had absolutely nothing to do with cameras what so ever. They determined portable band saws were the most practical method; balance being relatively quiet compared to other power tools while being the quickest. Manual tools were most quiet but the slowest which leaves you vulnerable.

That's very helpful to know, in case I need any poles or pipes cut! Thank you kind internet stranger!

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how much a used Jaws of Life are. That would go through them like butter. Silent Butter, even!

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The jaws themselves are huge plus you'd need a hydraulic power supply. Not very incognito.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago

Maybe you could retrofit them to be a one time use per charge and keep the power packs in a backpack? IDK man im doing my best over here.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Shoot"!? I'm American too, but not all problems can/should be solved with guns...

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Janx@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I did specify "should"! Hypothetically, cutting it down would be:

  • more effective
  • quieter
  • risking fewer charges
  • more permanent
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[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The cameras will track you anyways. You'll just get tagged as "2003 Honda civic, gray, license plates unreadable..." along with a descriptive list of any stickers on the back of the car.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

Jokes on them, that's not my car at all

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Flock also captures WiFi and Bluetooth MAC addresses and IMEI for cell signals. Even if they don’t get a license plate if your car has wireless CarPlay or Android Auto, if you’re connected via Bluetooth, if you have an in car hotspot, or if you have any connected services (remote start, phone app, traffic), they can track you by that.

A license plate is no longer the only identifying piece of information.

[–] Monument@piefed.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

As a person with modest theoretical knowledge and low practical experience in the matter (read: this might be an utterly bullshit idea), I kind of want to make a “Bluetooth shotgun” that responds to any AWK packets with a slew of spoofed info.
If such a thing were possible, I would then make it also listen for responses, and log them with a geolocation. I would then spoof those responses every time an awk was received around that area. (This is because nonsense data can be filtered to reveal just the real responses - my device(s), but inaccurate real data would destroy the value of the surveillance.)

Editing to add - lots of considerations. I wouldn’t want to just attack random people’s home equipment that’s seeking to pair. Maybe it only blasts out a bunch of responses when it’s an undirected advertisement or the advertisement has a MAC that corresponds to spying companies,

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

https://f-droid.org/packages/de.simon.dankelmann.bluetoothlespam

I do not know if it works. I couldn't get any BT connection notifications to show up on any Android devices I have here.

Most likely you would stand out as "the person with all the Bluetooth stuff".

"it's that car that's 20 cars again"

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

https://github.com/JiaoXianjun/BTLE
https://github.com/migraine-sudo/BTLE-R

Because I would love to see something like this exist, I went and found some prior art for doing arbitrary BTLE for you. Clankers seem to think SDR is necessary for the response-to-AWK bit because this is usually handled at the firmware/hardware level.

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[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago

Only criminals would bicycle

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And take off your damn bumper stickers

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

They profile more than just the bumper stickers. Faded paint, scratches, dents, one headlight has a foggy casing, tread patterns on tires, whatever they can to illegally track you.

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is 2026 and we are still promoting this myth

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It might work at night when flashes and such are used, it won't do anything during the day. It would also require frequent reapplication.

You'd be better off using a sbc to design a tracking system that can identify flock camera lenses and blast them with a green laser pointer, a laser pointer which of course isn't in any way driven beyond design parameters because that would be illegal.

[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anything that can reliably hold a laser on a small camera lens when mounted to a moving vehicle, or even identify cameras in the first place, is Lockheed Martin-level stuff, this is crazy talk. Just mount a Trophy ADS to my Subaru real quick.

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Technically you can install infrared LEDs to shine on your license plate to wash out the license plate

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