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submitted 21 hours ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A juror in the trial of Lindsay Clancy is sharing new details about what he said happened inside the jury room that led to a mistrial in the case of the Massachusetts woman facing first-degree murder charges for the 2023 deaths of her three young children.

Nick Dargie, one of the three men on the 12-person jury, told ABC News' Aaron Katersky that the lone holdout juror who prevented a unanimous verdict did not show any evidence explaining his vote.

"There was several times I would ask him to show us evidence or, you know, describe a witness testimony that helped to prove what he was saying, and ... he couldn't," Dargie, 25, said in an interview Wednesday.

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[-] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 1 points 5 minutes ago

Love that all the incels are going to bitch and whine about a case they only know from headlines for a month.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today -2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

having 9 women and 3 men, wasnt by accident, they definitely wanted her acquited. they know if women are chosen they often would sympathesize with the defendant more. thats why juror pools are kinda rigged.

[-] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Some people are just contrarian

Being a contrarian is a huge red flag

[-] DampSquid@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

Being a contrarian is a huge red flag
No it isn't

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 2 hours ago

Jury nullification in action.

[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

It's weird to see the other jurors shit talk the lone one to the media. Why do it? It make them look like assholes.

[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Tribes. Just tribes.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today -1 points 1 hour ago

some people on another platform, said they want thier 15minutes of fame, so they try to do a SJW move for women.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago

Well they arent required to have evidence. Their reasoning is their own.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

Jurors do not have to "follow the law". If it was that simple, we would just let the judge decide innocence and guilt.

Jurors can acquit people they know are guilty, so it stands to reason they can convict someone they know are innocent. It's not ideal, just superior to the alternative.

[-] wagesj45@fedia.io 26 points 18 hours ago

I don't know any particulars about this specific case because I did not follow it. But that being said, he doesn't have to justify his vote in my opinion. There's a reason we have a jury of multiple people. The entire system was designed specifically for this possibility to arise to put a check on the possibility of mob mentality.

I don't know if he made the right call. I'm just glad that he has the right to make the call of his conscious in this system.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 32 points 19 hours ago

The quote is that he couldn't "prove what he was saying," which suggests that he had his own idea of what happened instead.

We don't know what that idea was (yet?), and depending on what it is, Lone Juror may be justified or not.

Because of the way the justice system is configured in the US, a juror's vote is unassailable. This is what jury nullification stems from. That can and surely does go the other way, where someone is convicted of a crime they didn't commit, just because the jury felt like it, damn the evidence or lack thereof.

Can't wait until they decide that federal juries get to be handpicked by a "neutral party."

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 61 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Is no one else just a little, tiny bit enormously concerned that social media is having a post-jury interview fest? Like holy shit, is no one else worried that we are suddenly scrutinizing jurors? That's the first step to killing jury nullification. Imagine getting called to a high profile case, and you make a decision the public doesn't like. Imagine losing your job over it due to public backlash. Imagine getting stalked and harassed, literally for performing your civic duty. Imagine you stand up against fascism by utilizing jury nullification against an unjust law, only to be mercilessly harassed by the police for months on end because focusing on jurors has become the norm.

When the trial is over, the jurors should cease to exist. The media should not "tell their story" because their story begins and ends with the trial. Jurors identities should be kept sealed once the trial concludes.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, I was really weirded out by all the interviews happening right now and how openly they are discussing what went on behind closed doors.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 10 points 19 hours ago

You're right, but being people who have freedom of speech, there's little that can be done about that.

Unless you start flagging on the people who do the interviews.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 15 hours ago

Yea, once you are placed on the jury, you have the right to vote “because I said so”

[-] Cypher@aussie.zone 6 points 18 hours ago

This is strange, we know there was expert testimony that Clancy was not suffering psychosis. Did the jurors simply forget that testimony or was there further conflicting testimony that actually cast doubt?

The public reaction and copycat killing are disturbing to say the least.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

This is strange, we know there was expert testimony that Clancy was not suffering psychosis

My understanding is that the prosecution expert said that she hadn't given her doctors reason to suspect she was experiencing psychosis.

Ie, he didn't say that she wasn't psychotic when she murdered her kids.

The expert then conceded a lot of points to the defence about how psychosis could have set in quickly.

But I might not be recalling properly.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The articles I read about the first 3 that spoke out seemed like they had an axe to grind. I'm not putting much stock in their opinions.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world -4 points 20 hours ago

Good for him, you shouldn't let a murderer off just because of peer pressure.

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 28 points 20 hours ago

Seems to me that if that were the case he could have pointed to a particular piece of evidence or witness testimony that supports his conclusion.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Well, there was that whole trial. And everyone does agree she strangled her kids.

[-] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 17 hours ago

She admitted to the killings, yes. The problem was deciding her mental fitness to be held responsible criminally.

Lets not just ignore the legal nuance that makes this a complex situation. Otherwise we'll just talk past each other the entire time.

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago

But didn't the other 11 jurors vote not guilty by reason of insanity?

[-] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 18 hours ago

I mean, wasn't it either prison or high security mental health facility? I don't think she gets off scott free either way.

I don't get why people act like the dude was the sole hero blocking her from going free and getting starbucks on the way to her next infanticide.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world -3 points 17 hours ago

She has a chance of getting out of the mental health facility, thats what I believe most people are having an issue with. Personally I think she was and is insane but I don't think anyone who murders children should ever walk free. It's a hard spot to be in because she definitely needs the mental help and she wont get that in prison but the murders are unforgivable.

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