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Look there have been at least 2,000 attacks on U.S. schools with guns... They just so happen to be performed by people from the U.S as well

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In their efforts to Westernize Iran, the USA has bombed over 500 Iranian schools this year.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

They really choose their best school shooters

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

and only by RIGHT wingers, who are white.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's indeed quite the mix joingoist delusions of grandeur making the average American think they as individuals are superior to those from other countries whilst not actually having much in the way of values, breadth of knowledge, education or wisdom.

Reminds me how the other day I was watching a Documentary about the war in Afghanistan and at one point there was this American soldier (possibly a Lieutenant) trying to convince a bunch of locals including some elders of something or other and even I (who am Portuguese) could recognize that this guy in his mid/late 20s was totally missing the social clues and natural social structure of the place, for example and not giving the face-saving "respect" to the elders of that culture even if you're in a position of strength - go to a place thinking you're a superior person with a superior culture and superior ways and don't be surprised if the locals seem to "respect" your strength in your face whilst giving you the run-around if they can get away with it and undermining you behind your back.

[-] peacepath@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I think an Antropologist said it something as "the barbarian is the one who belives in the existance of barbarism."

[-] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 106 points 1 day ago

Still the only nation to have nuked cities.

Thank goodness it was the good guys who did it and the bad guys have never done it. It'd be horrific if the bad guys did it.

[-] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago

Eh, I get what you mean but imagine the Nazis started nuking.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It just struck me. Germany invented missiles just before Japan sent their boys on suicide runs as living missiles. The nazi scientists in the US watching Japan throw so many people away must have felt pretty self satisfied

[-] kettuli@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They might have killed a quarter of a million civilians.

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I'll put on my cynical hat, and assume Iran isn't a perfect humanitarian state.

They are fighting a different war, they know if the US gets the slightest amount of public support it'll be Iraq/Afghanistan all over again, while the US is bombing Iran, Iran is fighting the propaganda war, and they are doing amazing.

From the lego videos, to only hitting targets the US public don't care/can't complain. Like military bases, Amazon Data centers...

They only have to fight until next election cycle. And this extremely unpopular offensive will be over. and they might even get a friendlier US administration.

Trump is 100% losing this war.

losing this war

That's what America does

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago

They only have to fight until next election cycle. And this extremely unpopular offensive will be over. and they might even get a friendlier US administration.

Chuck and Hakeem criticisms of the war is that it is not being run competently enough, when Trump had a stopped-clock-moment and signed the first peace deal, they and the rest of BlueMaga were saying TACO Trump.

I have no faith a Gavin Newsom presidency stops the war.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 10 points 1 day ago

Americans may believe that Democrats will end the war, but I assure you Iranians are under no such delusions. This is not Trump's war or Netanyahu's war, it is the Pentagon's war. Failure to realize this is cope.

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[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 6 points 1 day ago

Iran is not perfect, but they do have very strong convictions and their own conception of what it means to be a humanitarian state.

Iran never developed or used chemical weapons against Iraq, even when Iraq used it against them. Producing chemical weapons is easy and Iran could have easily done it hade they wanted to.

In the same vein, Iran could have had nuclear weapons had they not decided to ban weapons of mass destruction.

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[-] urthoughtsrbad@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

First time looking at a conflict involving the USA?

Do Vietnam next.

[-] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago

The USA is 100% locked down by Israel.

Fuck Israel. Israel hates everyone that isn't them, they want to kill or enslave us all.

I am not looking for people to reply to me I'm wondering why all these Israeli leaders saying "Only Israel matters" isn't a bigger issue.

.... I'm now remembering I'm not on Reddit and I can relax and not immediately jump into self defence mode.

Free Palestine, kill child predators and Nazis! Nice to not be on Reddit.

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[-] remon@ani.social 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

TBF, they literally don't have the range to hit anything other than US military bases and ships.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They could hit schools in USA allied countries where the USA military bases are. They could explicitly target the schools in the USA military bases. They're not doing that, we would be told if they did.

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[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

A very valid perspective, which brings us back to why did we start a war with a nation that can't even strike us?

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago

Iran definitely has smarter leaders. Low bar, I know.

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Uh, Iran has bombed a bunch of civilian sites. Also massacred tens of thousands of activists then blacked out the internet to hide it from the world.

Sorry, but there are no good guys in this one.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So Iran was able to kill as many civilians as Israel did in 2 years, in one week, hide the bodies, clean the blood, and convince the families not to say anything? No news footage, no cell footage..

We just have to take the word of a pedophile rapist billionaire government?

All this while mossad literally admitted to having agents in the protests??

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago

Also a prime sponsor of terrorism all over the Middle East. Sure, the US shouldn't be there and shouldn't be acting like assholes, but you're 100% correct. No good guys.

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Who tried to steal who's oil in the 50's?

Who tried and succeeded to overthrow a democratically elected government in Iran and instill the Shaw in the 50's?

Who traded arms for hostages in the late 1970's and where did the money come from to buy said arms?

Who is Oliver North and why is he a CNN analyst?

Imagine if Iran did this to the USA?

All the USA does is cause terror and pain throughout the world and history.

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[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

If they stayed out of the middle east and didn’t force Israel to exist you would see a lot less “terrorism” so don’t blame middle eastern countries because dumb colonizers(UK) and their colony(USA) exists. A lot of the current problems in the middle east stem from the colonizers being dumbasses for over 100 years.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

This right here. Add to that the fact that many undocumented migrants from Central and South America are often escaping political environments that are the direct result of predatory and/or parasitic American policies.

Intrusive American foreign policy is often the source of bad situations around the world.

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

massacred tens of thousands of activists

Trump literally admitted they had armed them.

Was Iran supposed to let US proxies just prevent them from defending themselves?

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who are the real barbarians?

Uh...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

Iran is only hitting US military bases in other countries, because even now an attack on US soil is a terrible idea.

trump and Iran are both evil, but Iran isn't ran by idiots. They understand the game.

Like in most conflicts, both sides can be shitty. But Iran makes what trump is doing with ICE like nothing. They're both evil and shouldn't be in power, but Iran's government has killed looooads more Iranians than trump.

[-] kingshrubb@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wonder what Iran would be like if it still had its democratic government before the U.S. and U.K. orchestrated a coup in 1953 that installed the Shah for the crime of nationalizing their oil industry. Iran was on a path to democracy and the US undid that and installed an authoritarian leader.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Obviously way better...

But that's not whose been running Iran?

Like, America would be a lot better off if Al Gore and Bernie Sanders had been elected too.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Right, but the people running Iran right now are the result of the US interfering explicitly to combat Iran's socialization of their oil. Which reflexively led to the Iranian Revolution and the current Islamic Republic. The current regime would not exist without US interference. Al Gore and Bernie Sanders suffered domestic interference, not foreign.

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[-] Akh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I am not sure you want to go down this road, the US has killed likely millions of children in iraq, iran, afganistan, yemen, etc

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[-] kingofras@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Sorry, but this is a false equivalence.

Of course things are terrible inside Iran, especially for women. However. This is about each country’s military strategy.

If you want to whataboutism into “but look at their human rights for their own people”, I will gladly send you here and there for a moment of pause and reflection.

And yes Iran is strategecally far superior in the way they are playing this, but if you think that through, you will understand that Donny and Benji are providing a perfect external threat to Iran, bolstering the perceived need for a ‘protector’ in the from of the IRG.

This zionist war is helping Iran to keep it’s status quo, rather than letting the people continue the beginnings of a groundswell movement which was beginning to take place right before the war.

Your wiki article far from unbiased, and you might want to take into account who’s been interfering for over half a century tool.

TLDR; don’t compare a theocracy vs a (kleptocracy + theocracy) and say one is better than the other. Go print a newspaper in Jerusalem with FREE PALESTINE as the headline, or go walk around freely as a hispanic looking person in any democratic state in the US.

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[-] fake@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Man this sounds an awful lot like Russias MO.

Doesn't work for them either.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

No, it's American as apple pie.

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[-] BilSabab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

russians are more into firing ballistic missiles into residential housings in the middle of the night these days. still doesn't work.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago

"western barbarians" was always used as a trope in games and media to describe the us, by asians.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

No need when there are enough school shootings to fill the gap.

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