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[-] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

for ISPs it might happen For DNSs it could happen to some extent For VPNs, i highly doubt that.

i2p truly is going to be the future.

[-] londos@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

So it'll block ChatGPT and others?

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 250 points 3 days ago

I use those to train my AI though. It’s not piracy if there’s money.

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago

“Sonarr has escaped containment 😱!!!”

[-] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 39 points 3 days ago

It was openai or meta that claimed because they didn't seed the torrent that it wasn't really piracy.

So piracy only starts becoming bad when it takes the form of communism/socialism lol.

The theft for a major corperation? Thats just good ol reliable capitalism.

[-] CalemitousVariantK@lemmy.world 84 points 3 days ago

Meta, X, and ChatGPT have all automated mass piracy of art, music, articles, and anything their genAI touches. Surely you mean to start there?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago

Its only illegal when peasants do it, not when billionaires do it. *

*it being anything.

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[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

They want to lock down file sharing so no one else can use the data to build AI now that they have it

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

This. Totally this. Illicit recording of live broadcast radio performances of black jazz and blues artists in the 20's and 30's was how the major labels got their coffers large enough to start to change laws to protect them from others doing what they did to those original musicians.

The copyright enforcement laws came into place once they'd established themselves by breaking copyrights.

Utter cunts.

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[-] eah@programming.dev 61 points 3 days ago
[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

If you tell a joke that you heard from somebody else to a friend you're breaking the Copyright of the creator of the joke.

If Copyright was strictly enforced it would constantly intrude in people's lives and pretty much everybody would turn against it.

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[-] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago

Piracy is only okay for AI companies.

[-] angband@lemmy.world 139 points 3 days ago

Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff. These tens of billions they talk about don't exist.

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 100 points 3 days ago

Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff

How DARE you!

My piracy is morally; not financially driven

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 53 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Mine is accessibility driven.

Oh, wanted to watch that series from last year to end? Too bad, it's gone now.

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I would be surprised if most US politicians are capable of understanding the concept of duplicating files on a computer

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[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

For people who hate the government, they sure like using it to oppress everyone else.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Actually they (Republicans) love the government, specifically because it pays them money to pass corporate protectionism bills. Remember, when Republicans take over and lock out the Democrats, then:
~ They no longer need Republican votes, so officials no longer have to serve their constituents
~ The Executive no longer needs Congress, so their money train is in jeopardy.
~ The businesses no longer need lobbyists, so their money train is in jeopardy.

(Considering the level of incompetence we've seen in the federal government lately, it's possible that our congresscritters haven't fully thought this through.)

We're in the AI age now, which has shown us IP laws mean nothing when an entire major industry wants to violate them. This has always been true, as the studios and record labels pirated all the time, but it wasn't as open and in the sunlight as it is with AI development. And Big AI is currently propping up the entire stock market.

It turns out IP laws never meant anything anyway. Copyrights and patents were justified as temporary monopolies to promote science and the useful arts, specifically to produce a robust public domain.

Except it does neither. Artists and scientists are rarely the copyright holders, and to get to own their own stuff, they need to be hot property (still making content) and have good lawyers. Also, the temporary monopolies have become permanent in practice. (much thanks to Walt Disney.) SCOTUS has not only refused to see the public as a stakeholder, but has taken things out of the public domain, so it has to be licensed again, in defiance of the Constitution of the United States.

So now IP law is only a rent-seeking racket. Especially now since you need subscriptions to use your appliances.

But as Sony has made clear for us in 2026, if purchasing isn't owning, then piracy isn't a copyright violation.

This bill is a technology solution and has technology countermeasures. They can order ISPs DNSes and VPNs to block piracy sites, but those sites change all the time, and can do so faster than it takes to update the registries. Furthermore, when services don't follow through, they will get more usage (and will make more money) so there's a perverse incentive to slow walk the updates, and not talk to whoever makes the lists.

We learned this a long time ago when the biggest selling point of ISPs was free porn and free movies.

Like encryption with backdoors for law enforcement, there's no way to nerd harder to make it work.

It also depends on foreign service offerings cooperating with US law. Unless we build the Great Firewall of the US (which, I'm sure, is on the table), US offerings will be obligated to follow the law while foreign ones do not, which will run against the interests of local businesses.

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[-] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 119 points 3 days ago

Thank GOD! ONLY Billionaires should be Allowed to Pirate EVERYTHING EVER MADE!

-Republicans!

[-] LightDelaBlue@jlai.lu 6 points 2 days ago

so its the freedom they talk about alls the times?

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

meaning, "Block whichever sites we say."

Yet another FREEDOM bill from the Party of FREEDOM

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[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 73 points 3 days ago

Piracy keeps the poors occupied and busy so they don’t riot. There’s no blood left to squeeze from that rock, they’re not going to buy streaming. Games are in decline as systems die of go outdated, and corporate erodes the quality of development.

They’re idiots if they push this bill in earnest.

Look what happened the last time people had too much time on their hands (Covid). And everyone has a lot more to pissed about, now.

[-] mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago

Your last paragraph crossed my mind recently as the oil prices really start to spiral out of control. There were so many protests bordering on riots because people were stuck at home due to covid - now we're already hearing news that truckers are starting to sit idle instead of driving at a loss.

Imagine how much free time and how much anger everyone will have when the economy grinds to a halt from product shortages all over the country.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

While trump uses any fucking song he wants to for his two-fisted entropy dance.

[-] LeftReddit2@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago
[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Wait until critizism of The Glorious Party and Our Beloved Supreme Leader is considered "piracy".

[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 27 points 2 days ago

We got a DNS-based censorship law in Denmark ages ago. It was strictly for blocking child pornography. Today the list also includes: Unlicensed gambling sites, piracy, as well as a handful of sites that "doesn't contain CSAM or other obviously illegal content" (old source, but nothing has really changed except probably the amount of websites on the list)

Censorship will never be limited to what it was first set in motion for. It is just too powerful and it is too tempting to not expand it to cover other "nuisances" a government or its lobbyists might have. If the barrier of entry is just adding a new string to a list, they're gonna add that string to the list.

And if you want to circumvent it you just point your DNS to Quad9, Cloudflare, Google, or any of the DNS services that doesn't implement the filter (including at least one Danish DNS service), so in essence it is pretty useless for the target groups it's meant for.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Indeed. It starts with implementing the means, arguing with CSAM, terrorism, foreign espionage, or whatever cow is on the main street, and once it is running, it will be abused, both by broadly extending the reach ('It was initially meant to fight terrorism, but is now used to cover copyright and parking violations.'), and illegal abuse by users ('Police officer tracks his ex through Flock cameras').

[-] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Quoting the president's actual words is unauthorized reproduction!

[-] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 53 points 3 days ago

It'd really be nice if "Huh. This protects corporate interests more than taxpayer interests. Denied." was a thing in government.

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[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago

how do they plan to enforce this with foreign VPNs?

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago

Don't try to explain technology to them. It won't work.

[-] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

You see, it's a series of tubes...

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[-] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 54 points 3 days ago

"Issa argued that online piracy helps fund terrorist groups and other criminal networks. ". I never thought of AI companies as terrorists, but it's a good label for the harm it's caused

[-] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 26 points 3 days ago

Um... Piracy funds terrorist groups? Handing out software for free earns money?

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[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 62 points 3 days ago

Oh, I run a new company called FaceMeta, and this is all being stolen for “training” - therefore perfectly 100% legal according to capitalism

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

I have a seedbox in a country that gives no fucks, so I'll just use a DNS provider in a country that gives no fucks. You can make it harder, but you can't make it impossible.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

And it's not like it's so much harder to press a few extra buttons. Bonus: you're safer online, so if anyone wants to go down the road, they'll just be safer online.

They're all a bunch of fucking idiots, the people making these bills.

[-] upandatom@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Wish people would realize they are NOT idiots.

This erodes privacy and allows character assassinations on anyone who wants to be safe and/or private by using those VPN that do not comply. Is your mega ISP really going to stand up for your rights under this? Can you really get a new ISP at the "press of a few buttons"?

You aren't the only one here not understanding how "this doesn't directly affect me" bc you have the technical skills to avoid it. It does affect you, even if only by the chilling effect of it being more difficult to discuss online.

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[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago
[-] ItsNotImportant24@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

I tested I2P a number of years ago and havent messed with it since. Been wanting to get back into setting it up for torrenting on my server. Will have to do some research and set it back up this weekend. Nows a better time than any I guess. Thanks for the reminder to start again.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 45 points 3 days ago

soo many stupid things with this... but this one i thougt funny.. its like the poopholeloophole... restaurant wifi is exempt

It would also exclude Wi-Fi networks offered on the premises of airports, libraries, restaurants, retail stores, and similar establishments.

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[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Will this affect non-browser based file-sharing software like Soulseek?

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wait till they pull the "protect kids" card

If it did not mean so much suffering, I would have been laughing my ass out for years now

[-] ki4jgt@feddit.org 21 points 3 days ago

There are literally open DNS providers who run their own networks. Good luck.

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