Starting to feel more and more like humanity doesn't deserve a happy ending.
Humanity seems to be making sure that's the case
oh it certainly does not
It just reminds us that a good % of humans are still animals.
Think this is organic or mostly the result of US election interference? No way Brazilians are watching the far right clown show around the world and saying "I want in"
No way Brazilians are watching the far right clown show around the world and saying “I want in”
Literally as you said, far right clown show around the world as in: everyone is seeing it and saying "yes please, I want some of that too." it's unfuckingbelievable how this shit keeps happening... It's absolutely going to be the decade (or more) of the far reich. :/
No way Brazilians are watching the far right clown show around the world and saying “I want in”
Frustratingly, it's entirely possible. We're seeing a similar thing in Australia with a bunch of imbecilic shills for billionaires and mining companies polling better than they ever have even though they've basically promised to be an Aussie version of the trump administration. We're all fucked, and it's just as much the fault of our friends, neighbours, and families as it is the oligarchs.
People don't think that far. "It's the economy, stupid."
Brazilian economy is doing OK. Growing higher that predicted expectations, low inflation compared with the rest of the world (the government determine gasoline and Diesel prices so it's shielded from international shocks). But people live on algorithmic bubbles that show them violence, crime and rage bait 24/7, all of that plus "I like Lula but my pastor told me to vote Bolsonaro" evangelicals
Presidentialism is a dead-end strand of democracy. Progressives living in such systems everywhere should be pushing to reform it to parliamentarianism. No one election should have such cosmic level effects.
Absolutely not the case. Maybe where you are and in the so-called first world. Parlamentarianism would be a huge boon for the right in Brasil. Hell, things have progressively sucked since the 2016 coup cause the parliment has increased its powers a fuck ton
My perspective is the European periphery (Greece) and Canada. I don't know in particular what the Brazilian parliament is doing. I suspect (feel free to correct me) that within a presidential system, where parliament can be weaponized against a personalist presidency, sure it can become a vehicle for irresponsible brinksmanship, just like in the US. But the moment a parliament becomes itself responsible for governing, when things cannot be blamed on some singular President, when governments can lose the confidence of the parliament and elections can be triggered things change and parliaments have to start taking shit seriously.
That said, Parliamentarianism is not the perfect democratic system, it's just better than Presidentialism. It is also not a guarantee against fascism (cf Hungary, Italy), it is just harder to subvert them. It is no coincidence that democracies that slide to authoritarianism tend to reform themselves into presidential systems, like Turkey. And of course, the real question is what is even better than both, how do we perfect democracy beyond 19th century political technologies, but that's a different discussion.
A lot of voters didn't bother voting in the first round, because they knew that it would come down to a second. Brazil has like 20 or so parties, and one has to get over 50% of the votes to win. Just gotta wait for the second round, no point in getting worked up about this one, everyone knew it was going to come down to these two.
At the same time, the vast majority of the 8% who voted for someone other than these two in the first round voted for candidates more right-wing than Bolsonaro. Is there really no good way to remedy a January 6?
This is opposite to what I'm seeing.
Here's the important chart:
From this, the 1.87% difference can be overcome by any of the 3rd-4th-5th place parties. Since I'm unfamiliar with Brazilian politics, Wikipedia says Avante is center-left-leaning (voted for Lula previously), Missao is hard-right-wing, and SDP is confusing but appears to now be center-left-wing. So if we are now pushing their voters to polarized ends, the right- and left-wing runners-up cancel each other out, and the remaining party's votes could swing the election.
The problem will be if the weaker-left two parties divide their votes between Lula and Flavio, and the hard-right Missao goes to Flavio 100-ish%, then Flavio still wins. Or some other problem a real Brazilian will point out since I'm just piecing this together from Wikipedia.
I’ve analyzed all of the candidates appearing in first-round results: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/28475259 My takeaway is 4.71% right-wing against just 0.16% Lula-ish. If you search, you’ll also see most news outlets making the same predictions I am.
There is no candidate more to the right of Bolsonaro. He is the frothing-in-the-mouth, extreme-far-right candidate.
Dear Brazil, why didn’t you learn from the USA’s mistakes?
In here, US subverts everything with algorithmic manipulation, voters don't do any reality checks. Meta (IG, WA & FB) is the main source of information and communication.
And if you wanna know more about Flávio Bolsonaro, with whom he's hanging out, watch this, it's dubbed, but it's worth watching.
Vote.
Voting is mandatory in Brazil
What's the penalty if you don't?
That's what Lula's voters think about this guy
Hopefully the people of Brazil can stand up and fight back against this sad situation. You are not alone in this BS we can and will overcome this.
Probably won't. Right wing dumbfuckery is a world wide trend.
They should have hanged his dad.
Its insane because brazillians are so online and i know so many nice brazillians who im sure voted lula even if hes still corrupt and not a good candidate but much better than Bolsonaro. Its just insane to see this literal clown get elected.
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