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BBC edits out pride pins on University Challenge in ‘Orwellian’ move (www.leicester.news)

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Two University of Leicester students speak out over ‘absurd’ and ‘Orwellian’ decision by the BBC and ITV Studios to edit out pride pins worn on University Challenge

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[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 7 points 1 hour ago

A spokesperson for ITV Studios said: “University Challenge is an entertainment quiz show and is made in accordance with the BBC Editorial Guidelines requirements for impartiality.”

If you're impartial between people who just want to live their life and people who want to eradicate them, you're not being impartial.

[-] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 3 points 2 hours ago

It isn't only America doing this shit.

Sadly it is beyond one country.

[-] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

End the BBC.

[-] geneva_convenience@thelemmy.club 65 points 14 hours ago

[-] Jiral@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I disagree with the last one as "Races" aren't simply a thing to begin with, while genders and sexusal orientations to exist, even if they are complicated.

[-] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

You've probably heard "gender is a social construct" before, so surely you could argue about that, too.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

Not really. Genders do exist in biology. They may not always be clear cut (and one animal might have also both genders at the same time) but they most certainly do exist and are the foundation for sexual reproduction which is very much a thing, next to asexual reproduction. Human races are not.

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 12 points 11 hours ago

The BBC is run by dogshit humans.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago

The UK should've stayed a republic during the Cromwell times. The British monarchy will fall, I'll tell ya.

[-] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I mean, after doing a genocide Cromwell declared his son his political heir... I don't disagree but it just never had a chance because British people barely knew what a republic was. They literally just had classical-inspired vibes about it.

No joke, I wrote a paper in college that sourced an Enlightenment era English writer who claimed that the English state was a monarchal republic because the citizens had more rights than the French.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

As someone who's ancestors were exiled for siding with Cromwell I agree. But also I wish to purge the monarchist filth from Britain.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 10 points 13 hours ago

Labour and Reform: destroy BBC, force them to provide cover for the establishment and then privatise it!

[-] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 112 points 20 hours ago

The pride flag is being framed more and more as some kind of big and divisive political statement, while it shouldn't be... But how do we respond to that? How does one defend against such framing?

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago

Continue to celebrate it!

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 19 hours ago

You don't. You make them defend why it's divisive and why it's a political statement.

You don't engage them. Make them engage you.

[-] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 32 points 14 hours ago

Same way you deal with racist/sexist jokes. Make them explain what's funny.

[-] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 4 points 11 hours ago

Or in the case of the pride flag, make them explain why it's a bad thing? Which is when they'll say it's being forced upon them, and the woke agenda is pushed down everyone's throat and whatever.

Which is also very hard to defend against... That is, I myself find it difficult to find something to say.

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

It's just like ... Not though?

If they just straight up live in an alternate reality world where seeing a flag and leaving people alone to live their lives is equivalent to pushing the "woke agenda" there isn't much you can do.

You can ask how it's being forced on them but honestly they just are cowards with a victim complex who want to feel like they're being persecuted as they actually are insulated from the worst shit and are benefiting the most from our society.

So ... Yeah anyone that says woke stuff is being shoved down their throats is a moron tbh. I've had Mormons come knock on my door, never a queer person trying to convert me to ... The horrible idea of equality before the eyes of the law?

[-] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 2 points 9 hours ago

Yes, it's exhausting... In any case I want to hang up a pride flag outside my home soon, to at least show some solidarity. I'm afraid it might lead to vandalism, but we'll see, I guess.

The comparison with Mormons is a good one. We thankfully don't have those here, but we do have Jehovah's creeps.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Do it, pride flags are very important for us queer folk. They indicate which areas are generally safe and which aren't. The more proudly they're flown, the better. If you do, I recommend using the progress flag (with the triangle bit)

You don't have to be queer yourself to help make queer people feel safe

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Not sure between the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses which of them is worse. They both share a lot of commonality. In that both were created by some dude to excuse their behavior and control the community (in my opinion). Obviously deeper than that and plenty of differences but both of them I find have pretty dubious history.

[-] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Definitely with you there. But then all religions are cults.

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 points 11 hours ago

It represents deviation from the insisted "norm" which defies what is told to you is the "correct" order and they will insist that that is violence to cover the actual violence they use to keep people in line.

[-] marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 19 hours ago

They are a genocidal org. They don't care.

How does one defend against such framing?

Real life local activism.

[-] Setiyeti93@lemmy.ca 130 points 21 hours ago

"what has the BBC ever done for me"

It's part of their campaign to try and beg people not to abandon the licence fee.

So, what has the BBC done for me?

Erased my culture. There.

[-] Kusarihime1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 21 hours ago

I hate those ads with a burning passion! What has the BBC ever done?

Provided transphobes with a platform. Downplayed Israel's genocide. Provided Jimmy Savile with victims. I could go on...

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

The same bbc that once aired Monty python.

SMH

[-] CumbrianCucumber@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I swear the BBC used to have the best comedies in the world. Monty Python, Only Fools and Horses, Fawlty Towers, BlackAdder, Red Dwarf, I could go on and on and on.

I feel like they haven't really done anything drastically funny since The Mighty Boosh, which was over 20 years ago now. Inside Number 9 was alright, but gave up its comedic undertone after the first series or so. Red Dwarf has moved to Dave, The Goes Wrong Show was good too, but that was an adapted stage show. Technically The Mighty Boosh started as a stage show too, have the BBC not done any good original adult comedies since the 90s?

I know this is a facetious tangent given everything else the BBC do, but I'm honestly surprised how little anyone seems to notice or care that arguably the biggest entertainment network in the world can't even entertain its audience any more

[-] Dultas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

The Thick of It? I would say the office but that's 25ish at this point.

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

There is still some masterful comedy, like Taskmaster and various panel shows.

However the embraceing of the modern, counter culture and edgy things has gone down the drain as directors have boomerified and have things to lose.

[-] M137@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

You seem to have thought "ah, British thing, means it's BBC".

[-] WillowWisp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago

Taskmaster is Channel 4, and started life on Dave. BBC has nothing to do with it.

[-] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

i can not unsee "The Young Ones" University Challenge skit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEuk8PNjm8E

[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 22 hours ago

My hatred for the BBC grows with each passing day. I could understand (using their twisted logic) if they were trans pride pins, given their BBC’s status as TERF island enablers, but they were a progress pride and bisexual flag.

[-] spring_cedar_dust@reddthat.com 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

They still haven't forgotten they lost that culture war in their eyes. After this "war on trans" they are hoping to redo the "war on gays" again

[-] brem@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago

Apples & Pears

King Trump fell up the stairs

Prime Ministers change chairs

Whilst the Epstein Files flair like hemorrhoids on the derriere of whatever King is over there.

Meanwhile, The united states awaits their newest press secretary

The results could vary but I doubt it'll be anything that Trump doesn't want to Marry, or contrary.

[-] bad1080@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago

and let's not forget "sex with underage girls"

[-] brem@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

.. also, boys on the side

[-] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 0 points 8 hours ago

Meanwhile man award freedom of the beeb for dressing as giant poppy.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 21 hours ago

We need jungle I'm afraid

[-] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

return to monke?

[-] bold_omi@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

Mmm... monke.

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