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[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

Wow they banned something that doesn't exist and probably won't exist lol

[-] misterdark@lemmy.world 143 points 4 days ago

In the US, you cannot ban people from using an app on their personal phone in your community. This is just ignorant. I'm not an AI bro, but you can't just have each community deciding on what constitutional rights they want to violate.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 32 points 4 days ago

Not sure freedom to use apps is included in the US Constitution ..

[-] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 65 points 4 days ago

That would likely violate the first amendment. Many of the ways you use your phone are considered forms of speech/expression. Wholesale banning of sectors of these by a government is a legitimate violation of your rights.

Fuck AI, tho.

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 44 points 4 days ago

Tell that to all the places that banned porn.

Originally porn was protected by the first amendment.

There's a whole movie about this called the people versus Larry flynt that kind of explains why.

[-] AmyAye@nord.pub 10 points 4 days ago

Well, you see, something something God.

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[-] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

In all seriousness, if someone wanted to sue that local government referring the first amendment, they would likely take the ban down.

That said, I don’t find any actual article from a reputable news outlet describing what actually happened and what is in the city council ordinance. Likely a brief unenforceable article, which, as such, has no bearing on anyone’s life.

A redditor mentioned they banned “self improving” ai, which, if true, would explain why it isn’t getting more coverage- this is a nothing burger.

[-] AmyAye@nord.pub 11 points 4 days ago

A redditor mentioned they banned “self improving” ai, which, if true, would explain why it isn’t getting more coverage- this is a nothing burger.

The year is 2029, Meta's GrokBots have taken over the world. They approach Bloomington Indiana, their next target. A kindly older gentleman approaches the army on the outskirts of town.

"Sorry boys, we banned self improving AI back in 2026, you are not allowed here."

The robots nod and continue onward, parting around the outskirts of town like a river flowing around a rock.

The town is saved. It becomes the last bastion of humanity within 6 months.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Constitutional rights are made up, the Supreme Court can interpret the Constitution however they want.

That's how they're forcing ID laws onto porn now. They make up some shit about "reasonableness" and your rights are gone.

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[-] LordMayor@piefed.social 111 points 4 days ago

Ughh… don’t call it superintelligence. That’s not a thing.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

The people pushing it the most are anti-intellectuals.

We need to call it fake intelligence.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 17 points 3 days ago

That's what it's already called, "artificial" is a synonym for "fake" in most contexts.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

This is pure theater, unenforceable, and it wouldn't hold up in court for a second. You can't just add "no takebacksies!" to a law and make it permanent.

[-] L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

It's theater, but it would be fun theater to drag the big companies marketing "super intelligence" into a courtroom, just to go on record stating that they do not have, and can not make, super intelligence.

[-] wampus@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Sounds sorta... silly, honestly. Yeah, we need a course correction on AI, or more, we need a significant course correction on big tech. But a city council 'banning' it, without understanding / clarity on what they're banning, is nuts.

Like here they define a bit clearer what they're banning --

ban autonomous systems that can modify their own core algorithms, run code outside their initial sandbox or perform complex tasks without continuous human oversight if those tasks could affect municipal networks, banking, financial markets or public safety.

Most enterprise firewalls would fall into this category, email filters too. Got an email system that automatically updates its algorithm to block malicious attackers? Banned. Even a simple script to help with sorting through financial data -- like doing money-laundering/fraud checks overnight, with an outputed report in the morning for staff to investigate when they get in, would potentially fit the ban criteria.

Most 24/7 continuous monitoring systems that use algorithms to send alerts/notify humans would fall into this category -- they're specifically designed to watch for complex variable combinations, and then alert humans when potential issues shows up, so they're explicitly designed not to be running "continuously under human oversight".

"AI" is such a broad/undefined term, that blanket banning tends to also ban technology based on algorithms that've been around for multiple decades, without significant issues. Sorta like how the EU's initial AI regulations had to make all these absurd carve outs for things like "Credit Scores", because a credit score is technically an algorithm, and they were legislating algorithms.

The ban's also nearly impossible to enforce, given its scope, and where "AI" has its hooks. Like if you ban AI, but all of Microsoft's products have it entrenched at this point... while I don't agree with it, I guarantee you the government / council would rather be in a state of non-compliance with their own law, rather than use Linux.

[-] FukOui@lemmy.zip 65 points 3 days ago

Don't call it artificial superintellgience FFS ☠️☠️☠️

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[-] BigDiction@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

People are talking about the ban itself but in what fucking world would a law only be repealed with consent of “95% of registered voters” LMAO

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

What the hell is artificial superintelligence?

[-] entwine@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

The precursor to artificial hyperintelligence.

[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

It has blue hair

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

you don’t have to change the law if you change what words mean, and in this case, they did not ban llm’s. they banned a thing that does not exist

[-] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago

How would this be enforced?

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Easy, if a company in Bloomington says "it was just our AI chatbot," busted. If a person says "well, Grok told me," busted - hope you live outside city limits. If a small business uses the slop font, send in the SWAT team, we got 'em boys. Tune all the city's Flock cameras to watch everyone's phones and we'll root out this cancer!

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[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 20 points 3 days ago

What does that mean?

What does this law actually ban? ChatGPT? I think the fuck not.

Does it ban something that doesn't exist yet, but might exist someday? If so, what is it, other than a feel-good measure that does nothing?

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[-] NuanceDemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago

This is so dumb and exactly what I would imagine from Indiana. Everyone in here cheering it on is braindead.

Life is never as simple as people like this wish it was.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 15 points 3 days ago

Unwanted AI on your smartphone while driving through town? That's a fine and a jail sentence. Genius.

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago

With Artificial Super Intelligence now banned, Sam Altman announced plans to direct more r&d resources towards Artificial General Intelligence instead.

[-] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago

https://www.idsnews.com/article/2026/11/bloomington-city-council-ai-commission-member-removal-udo

Superintelligence 

The council also voted on an ordinance that would bar the distribution and deployment of superintelligent artificial intelligence in Bloomington by any person or corporation. The ordinance passed unanimously. 

The ordinance defines superintelligence as AI that outperforms humans at nearly all mental tasks and can act autonomously, such as rewriting its own code or operating without continuous human oversight on tasks that could affect infrastructure, financial markets or public safety. 

This applies to the use of superintelligence in Bloomington through a browser, app or other connection. 

The ordinance acts as an interim public safety measure to the Bloomington Municipal Code. Through this ordinance, the city is allowed to seek civil penalties, injunctive relief and referral to the county prosecutor. 

According to a memo accompanying the ordinance, neither the state nor federal government have enacted safety parameters for artificial superintelligence. To address these dangers during government inaction, the interim public safety perimeter would protect digital networks and local businesses from artificial superintelligence in Bloomington. 

The interim measure will only stay in place during federal and state inaction. If the Indiana General Assembly were to establish a safety framework to address artificial superintelligence, the ordinance would expire 91 days after. 

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 47 points 4 days ago

The ordinance defines superintelligence as AI that outperforms humans at nearly all mental tasks and can act autonomously,

Oh, so they didn't actually ban anything.

[-] apparia@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 days ago

Yeah this seems like nonsense, but I'm guessing it's intended more as a show of the desire for stronger regulation, the way they frame it as a stopgap until the higher levels of government come up with something more coherent.

Then again, given they're apparently using "superintelligence" unironically, it could be they're just a bunch of spooked Skynet doomers.

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[-] 00000@reddthat.com 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is supposedly the actual ordinance

https://bloomdocs.org/wp-content/uploads/simple-file-list/2026-10-14-Bloomington-city-council-Ord-2026-29-Artificial-Intelligence-Rollo.pdf

However it's not published on their official government site (yet?), which only has up to ordinance 28 published (the anti_AG one is #29). I can't find any indication this has actually passed (note that the doc linked above isn't signed and has an empty space for date-of-passage). But maybe the site just isn't updated.

https://webmail.bloomington.in.gov/council/legislation/Ordinance/2026

I guess the interesting parts are, the justification for the law

Under Indiana Code § 36-1-3 (The Home Rule Act), the Common Council has sovereign authority to regulate public safety hazard nuisances within its jurisdiction.

The definition of what's banned, which, as other comments have pointed out, doesn't actually exist

Superintelligence” shall be analogous to an Artificial General Intelligence (“AGI”) with capabilities of Agency (A), Generality (G) and Intelligence (I), wherein an AGI does possess super-human capability in all three aspects, of AGI, as an AGI wherein any such autonomous Agentic (A) system capable of self-modifying its core algorithms, executing code in environments outside its initial sandbox, or operating without continuous human oversight while Generally (G) performing any complex goal-oriented task that may affect municipal infrastructure, financial markets, or public safety, in combination with an extreme level of super-human Intelligence (I), and defined by the AI Industry standard terminology “Superintelligence” herein defined as “Any intellect that greatly exceeds the cognitive performance of humans in virtually all domains of interest.”

And that it doesn't say you can't use it, it says you can't "deploy" or "distribute" it

No person or corporation shall distribute or permit to be distributed nor deployed into the premises of any citizen or business in our City, any Superintelligence for any purpose. Deployment, for the purposes of this ordinance, shall include the remote execution, activation, or utilization of any unauthorized digital agent through a locally accessed interface, browser, API, or connected hardware within the City of Bloomington, regardless of the physical location of the server infrastructure hosting the system.

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 17 points 4 days ago

Are they banning witchcraft and unicorns as well?

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[-] needanke@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is that the nuke one?

Edit: lokked it up, yes, it is.

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