Has she considered, as a sovereign citizen, privately negotiating travel rights with individual nations?
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Had to be a shitpost. How is she and her husband traveling around anywhere without any documents?
Her and the husband have documents. These people don't fuck up their own lives nearly as bad as they fuck over their children.
"I'll do for my children what my parents refused to do for me."
They know they're already "in the system", but they think they help their child stay out of it. Of course it's bullshit. Anyone who freely uses social media, especially Facebook and is only worried about g-men tracking them has severe brain rot.
It's never about being tracked or anything tangible, just vague "gubmint is comical Saturday morning cartoon evil" bullshit.
I had a bartender at my neighborhood dive going on about the "Vax is trackers" crap. I told her if she was worried about being tracked she needed to get rid of her smartphone.
Obviously she got real pissed and stormed off. Blocked me on Facebook too. 🙄😂
“Vax is trackers”
If they were tracking you thought vaccinations, they'd be handing you a real card with an rfid chip at least. Not a flimsy piece of paper. God, I wish the vaccination program was run half as competently as the anti-vaxxers thought it was.
also, if we had miniaturized 5g tracking into an injectable liquid they'd just put it into the beverage supply chain. Make them doubt their own beers!
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That’s the most ironic part. Like all the sovcit groups are on Facebook, which likely has considerably more data on them than the government, but they never seem concerned about corporations, just the gubbament
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“I want all the privilege of society but none of the responsibility and if you don’t give it me to you are stealing my rights “
@BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world, thank you for all of your posts. I'm absolutely fascinated by all the insanity you're bringing us, and I know it's a big ask, but I'd love to see a bit more context. Even just a few of the 'best' responses would give them more flavour. Do they ever report back when things inevitably don't go according to 'plan'?
Sure I can definitely do that. It's a big hard with Lemmy because on Connect it only allows me to upload one picture at a time, but I can stick them in the comments. Glad you are enjoying! They truly are the craziest I've ever seen.
Thank you! The thought of seeing deeper into this crazy fills me with delight.
This lady needs a visit from child welfare. That kid is almost certainly neglected and probably also abused.
All right wing extremist families do really. They're all batshit and don't take care of their kids.
But they have got to protect them from the man !
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Just leave it behind when you travel.
Declare loudly as you exit the building "I do not have an international treaty with you", in order to prevent starvation.
These people are so afraid of nouns. "The System"... Whether urban or rural, we all live in various systems, that's what society is. There's no cheat code to not participate, yet reap all the benefits! This is the same type of person that will lie to the yearly census, then complain that they aren't represented...
There's no cheat code to not participate and not reap any benefits either, even if you live off grid in the middle of nowhere. You might not recognize the government but the government doesn't give a fuck.
But... they do receive benefits. Even if it's something relatively simple like "driving on public roads" or "not having your home burn to the ground if there's a fire". That's my point. We should all participate in society and receive the benefits.
Also not having some foreign soldier come and do something horrible to you. If you truly want to live free of government benefits, you need to find a place with no government.
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I'm saying if you went out of your way to live totally off grid far from civilization to avoid receiving benefits, doesn't matter how little you take from society, the government doesn't care.
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Child traffick
This was my hottake as well.
Super sus
The article/documentary about this kid in 16-18 years is going to be wild. "I was born and raised by sovcit parents".
Or "I traveled alone"
“They usually put me in a crate with some water bottles and a hand warmer and just posted me wherever they were going.”
What does "Freebirthed" means?
Birth at home with no midwife, no doctors, none of that annoying medical stuff. Just the Mom, and some other idiots winging it like cave man times.
I literally don't understand a birthing plan that doesn't include doctors but does include kiddie pools.
Don't try to understand it, or anything to do with "Sovereign Citizen" nonsense. It takes a unique kind of stupid to exist in that alternate reality.
I mean, is that not what they are for? It's literally in the name.
Risk of child/mother dying is higher, but mostly if there are complications. For the most part, water birthing is relatively safe. Not getting a birth certificate, on the other hand, is not.
but mostly if there are complications.
Which are, uh, pretty common when giving birth.
Here is a study which has a ton of info. To summarize, undergoing labor in a water bath just flat out is safer. Actually giving birth has mixed results, not necessarily because it's less safe, but because there are a lot of external factors.(much of the studies featured midwives, which isn't useful for my claim) That being said, this specific segment, which I've done my best to ensure it wasn't taken out of context, is highly relevant to my claim:
Rates of newborn transfer to a hospital were lower following water birth (1.5%) than non–water birth (2.8%). Rates of adverse newborn outcomes (5-min Apgar score, 7, respiratory issues, presence of infection, and NICU admission) were each lower than 1.0% in the water-birth sample. The total rate of any respiratory issue was 1.6% in the babies born in water and 2.0% in those not born in water.
What does that at all have to do with not having a doctor present in case of a complication? Nearly 1 in 10 of all pregnancies have a complication of some sort. It doesn't matter how safe the method usually is, if something goes unexpectedly wrong you want someone there trained to handle it.
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Born outside of the hospital system with no record of the birth. Essentially an unregistered individual.
Setting that child up for failure. An actual pull themselves up by the bootstraps situation for them to have a chance at deciding if they want to be a part of society or live the life their parents forced upon them.
Deciding if they want to be a part of society or live the life their parents forced upon them.
I just realized we all face this choice at some point. Some are more drastically different than others, but at some point we all have to decide if we follow what we've been taught through childhood, or if we follow outside influences of society.
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I remember a case like this that was on reddit. She posted some video explaining the whole thing and that she turned 18 in a few weeks and had no documents. No birth cert, no SSN, no DL, no official docs of any kind. She was leaving her crazy anti gov parents when she turned 18 but realized she had no way to do it for that reason. The easiest solution people had for her to start the ball on all that was for her to sue her parents for a paternity test and go from there with sworn statements and such.
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Since she avoids "the system", I assume all her travelling is on foot. I wonder if she knows borders are mostly unguarded.
Her posting on the internet enters her and her child into the system anyway
Let's talk about the vaccines the child does not have.
And then we'll realize the paperwork issue may be moot before too many years.
Oh yeah none of them have shots. It's insane.
So how do they manage to travel without documents? And if they have those, why haven't they tried to travel without? Just to see how that is impossible.
Oh, the parents often have passports. Consistency isn't a real feature of sovcit fuckery. I think some do try to travel with their fake ids that they bought from some lunatic/grifter, but when it inevitably doesn't work, the desire to go on vacation outweighs their desire to not be part of the system, so they end up applying for a passport eventually.
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