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Elon Musk’s Tunnel Reportedly Oozing With Skin-Burning Chemical Sludge (futurism.com)
submitted 7 months ago by blakestacey@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems
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[Eupalinos of Megara appears out of a time portal from ancient Ionia] Wow, you guys must be really good at digging tunnels by now, right?

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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 177 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Fuck everything about these tunnels.

  • He proposed them to stop the city from implementing a subway system (fuck that shit).
  • He first proposed them as being effectively a subway/hyperloop but then stopped when that cost too much money
  • He then turned them into just underground private roadways accessible only to teslas.

Fuck that shit. The problem the city was trying to solve wasn't "We need more highspeed roads" it's "We need to be able move more people". And musk torpedoed that with a pointless underground tunnel.

Subways would have been way cheaper to operate, served more locations, and would not have been this stupid exclusive system for tesla owners to show off an LED light display.

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you seen the tunnels on Google maps? They are essentially a tunnel from one side of a parking lot, under the main street, to the entrance of the convention center across the road. A distance you could walk in 5 mins on street level, except your way is blocked by the 6 lane road without pedestrian crossing.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So instead it could have been an overwalk?

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, not enough revolutionary hi tech BS to showcase your electric cars to the public, and no potential to get into talkshows to brag how you "solved traffic" because you are such a brilliant mind... /s

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

But people movers are fucken awsome, theyre like escalators but horizontal! Way more advanced and technically impressive than a shitty electric car.

[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If I was the nafarious type...

I'm sure one could buy an old used Tesla that barely works.

Then drive it into the tunnel with a gas can and lighter on the passenger seat. Have a friend stand in the way blocking others from driving in behind you.

I wonder what would happen if it caught fire in the tunnel?

Would sprinkler systems take over? Would the tunnel burn and collapse as you walk out the other end so it's never used again?

Good thing I'm not that type of person....

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

Gas can would leave the wrong kind of residue and would exonerate the Tesla as a victim of a false flag eco terror attack. Use the inherent problems with lithium batteries to start a fire. A lithium fire is one of the types of fire that firemen will straight up avoid until the dedicated response unit arrives. A lithium fire will not leave survivors. It starts with an explosion and gets worse from there. Given enough time this happen naturally in that tunnel; it doesn't need help.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

You don't bring your own tesla to the tunnel. You use the ones they provide which probably all have the speed limit mode enabled.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Nobody forced the city's hand, though. They could have told Musk to fuck off.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 85 points 7 months ago

The agency ultimately fined Boring more than $112,000 over eight violations it deemed "serious." The company is, as Musk businesses are wont to do, contesting it.

We've gone from wrist slaps to someone blowing gently in your face.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

"Fuck Elon Musk!"

"I would advise against that. His tunnel has been found to have skin-burning chemical sludge in it. Good way to lose your penis."

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ensure you are wearing industrial-grade condoms

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Don't, that's what Big Sex wants! Trust me, you don't want Big Sex cumming after you like that. Unless you do, I'm not kink shaming.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

New Intrusive Thought Unlocked!

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 10 points 7 months ago

I would advise against it for many other reasons before you even reach his oozing sludge tunnel.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

"But consider: horse"

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 34 points 7 months ago

Can we revoke his government contracts now?

[–] cmhickman358@thelemmy.club 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I say we block off the tunnels but seal him inside like the Minotaur in the Labyrinth

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Eminent domain that shit, demo it, and build the subway that Vegas desperately needs, and the city wanted in the first place. He's bailed and gone to Texas

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

God I hate Elon Musk. What a fucking twat.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

he really is the worst isn't he

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

He is. Did you see the crap he posted on Twitter about the Baltimore bridge? Fucking dumbass.

Edit: found the screen cap:

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The repair should be put to commercial bid with a massive incentive for early and safe completion.

Fast, safe, cheap: pick two.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

But aren't all of these public works projects already put out for bid and include penalties for not meeting deadlines?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, let's reuse steel that has been weakened by unknown amounts and rebuild the bridge with the exact same flaws that caused it to be vulnerable to this type of collision.

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 18 points 7 months ago

Well to be fair, I think a lot of bridges would collapse if a 160.000t ship rams into its support structure.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is major RTS gamer brain. In those games, the scarce resources are the raw materials, because it's more dramatic to send your harvesters into the unknown to be attacked by enemies, while the actual knowhow on how to build stuff is passively "researched". So if you need to build a bridge, you magically have the planners and the engineeers and the building crew ready and waiting, but they need steel and stone to start, which you never have, because you just panic-built a bunker to defend your base.

In the real world, getting enough steel to build a bridge is easy enough - I imagine the lead time to be a couple months. Actually finding a team able to plan and construct one is another matter.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Judging from how much steel they'd have around at a single warehouse near to where I used to live, I'd hazard to guess that it would take much less time than a couple of months to get the steel.

But yeah, it's a moot point, because like you say it's going take far more time to design a new bridge and get together the crews to build it. We don't have some idle SCVs around just waiting to start building as soon as you click on the the location.

And I'm no engineer, but I'm guessing the steel from a bridge that collapsed would be too warped to be useful and the pieces that looked ok would have to undergo testing to make sure the stress they went under didn't compromise the material in some way. I'd guess it would be more expensive to use that steel than to just use new steel.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 31 points 7 months ago

Really taking that saturday morning cartoon super villain act to a new level.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

I like My Chemical Romance, but I might have to give Skin Burning Chemical Sludge a listen!

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Another Elon promise to make investment money, but nowhere near promised delivery.

Grifters gonna grift.

Maybe he should just buy a different company and pretend it's all him.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

the chemical sludge was filled not only with the commonplace byproducts of sand, silt, and water, but also accelerants used to set the grout to build the tunnels.

Why would a grout accelerant burn people?

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

The Lime in Portland cement.

Linky

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Guessing it is an oxidizer

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Cements and other pozzalanic materials also tend to be very alkaline. Industrial dumping of waste concrete can create a huge environmental hazard.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Oh we’re good at digging tunnels. No one bothered to mention human safety though. That’s a different skill set we haven’t come close to mastering.

[–] Venator 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did the tunnel go through a buried toxic waste dump?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 28 points 7 months ago

Just call it vegas like a normal person.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 9 points 7 months ago

@blakestacey

And the Vegas boondoggle isn’t great either.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Elon thought of that and installed air filters in the Tesla's. No challenge too difficult for this man.

(Hope the doors are mounted properly)