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[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Look, fuck russia sideways with a rusty fork, but I dont think they would attack nato. It would be suicide

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I think Putin will, but only when he's finally on the ropes with Ukraine or internally.

Then he'll attack NATO in order to provoke a response - the the prospect of full-scale war with NATO (and full mobilisation of the sons and daughters of Moscow and St. Petersburg) will allow Putin to secure a quick peace treaty that will likely force him out of Ukraine, but since it wasn't Ukraine that beat him, but 'all of NATO' he'll be able to avoid the window himself.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

We all think they won't attack Ukraine also.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

I mean, when the cia under Biden warned it was coming, I felt he was pretty certain. In any case I hope I am right and russia doesn't try to properly attack a nato country

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Biden warned the world days beforehand, everyone was like this same "yeah bro Russia's attacking tomorrow, haha, for sure bro" until the tanks rolled across the border.

Physically they haven't but politically they absolutely have (Trump et al.)

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

Yes they havent "explicitly" targeted a nato country, as per an attack, at least not so intentionally as to cause the other nato countries to respond with direct action.

[-] tehsillz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Several intelligence agencies are saying it's likely but this Lemmy user doesn't think so. I'm not sure who to believe.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They have all been saying it for months now "oh russia is going to attack soon!" While I cant discount it entirely, its a great way to justify an increase in military spending and conscription. Manufacturing consent. I think we can all hope that it wont happen. Im just giving my perspective, as one does on a platform such as this.

[-] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago

I get your point. And this year we've learned that wars are mutual plans by the epstein class. Conflict areas are organized for military industries to funnel money and test autonomous weaponry

[-] Malica@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago
[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I still don't think they would attack. It would be MAD all over.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago

Xi Jinping is literally, actually in the fucking White House, right now, and Trump just spent the last week telling Ukraine to stop attacking Russian fuel.

It would be war and they've got a pretty good chance of winning since they've already defeated NATO's largest force.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

They haven't defeated any forces. Or do you mean the US because Trump wouldn't get involved?

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Correct. Russia and China have effectively defeated the USA portion of NATO because I truly believe Trump and the GOP would refuse summons from an Article 5.

Russia and China are the reason Trump is president.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe. Trump's power is waning, and it's hard to predict exactly what he would do anyway. It's likely democrats will control congress next year and can send aid. If Europe can hold out until 2029, a different president might be more willing to provide active support.

[-] historicaldocuments@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

If Europe can hold out until 2029

Why would anyone who considers Europe an advarsary wait until they rebuild their militaries?

During the first impeachment hearings Dr. Hill said a lot of things that are worth remembering. One of those things is that Russia had a plan for whichever candidate won the trump v clinton election.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

With 53 GOP senators Trump is all powerful in the USA. They already purged the military generals and the rest of the federal government employees.

Resistance is coming from local and state levels which means fuck all for NATO.

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