There were, unfortunately, much worse outcomes than that which were possible.
"A man in Austria was rejected from art school, one thing led to another, and America dropped two nuclear weapons on the sovereign nation of Japan." - Brian Regan
And you can thank those two portable suns for giving us anime and hentai
The big yellow one is the sun.
Calm down there, Copernicus
Pick me! Pick Me! I have ideas.
not very good ones, I'm afraid, but I can at least make sure Trump can't hurt any more kids.
Keeping Trump from harming kids is a very good idea, so you've contradicted yourself already - like a true politician!
So you want to see Trump in prison, but strapped to a cam show where tips cause various electrodes to, you know, zap him?
Electrodes in very awkward places?
Tips go to helping all the people he hates most, of course.
Today we'll be debating the moral calculus of President FuglyDuck's initiative to explode all children.
oh shit the extreme environmentalists are on their side already
environmentalist
Ecofascists*
I mean I know where I stand I on that but I'm willing to listen to arguments why we shouldn't explode all children...
Conservatives have no respect for expertise.
It’s easy to assume something you have no clue about must be easy and anyone could do it. If you’re dumb and lack imagination, that is. I’d like to nominate a random farmer from Iowa to pilot Harrison Smith’s next plane ride.
If I see a cross in your username, your opinion goes straight in the trash
And he was so horrified at the results that he created the doctrine of civilian control of nuclear weapons.
"The buck stops here"
Truman had many faults, flaws, and mistakes. But he still ranks as one of our best presidents.
I'm waiting for the downside?
Probably the civilian deaths.
Yeah it seems pretty clear civilian deaths were coming regardless, whether through sustained aerial assault and ground invasion or two nukes. Which choice was less bad is something we can only speculate about
We are still using the surplus of Purple Heart medals we made in WWII in anticipation of a ground invasion of Japan. Food for thought.
I think we're just now using up the last of them.
There were way more civilian deaths from the war continuing than from the use of the atom bombs that helped convince the Japanese government to throw in the towel (aside from the parts of it that stubbornly attempted a failed coup to keep the war going, anyway). The Japanese occupation at the time of the atom bombing stretched from eastern China out to Indonesia and was quite brutal to say the least with many millions of civilians killed.
Do you mean of putting one guy in power or nuking Japan?
Well look what they were doing to POW's or how they surprise attacked us first.
That's not a justification.
so war crimes allow further crimes? we had no actual need to nuke them. let alone civilians. let alone twice. they were already going toward a surrender. but hey he knew the cold was was next, so to speak, so we might as well vaporize a few civilians to show russia we’re capable?
The targets were chosen for their military value.
Internal US discussions at the time show that the US did not believe Japan was heading towards a surrender, and projected immense casualties from either of the other two options (invasion, blockade) to end the war. For that matter, Japan was not 'going toward a surrender' except insofar as their 'surrender' offers included "We keep our brutal colonial empire, otherwise we will fight to the end." Japan was training fucking schoolchildren to become suicide bombers in preparation for a US invasion at that time. That's not 'going toward a surrender'.
Always nice when I think a user is a fuck and upon investigating I find them in a losing argument with you
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