Well shit, that's a concern. Like it's totally cool if they're doing chores and that's what's been agreed to or they're looking for work, it's rough out there and I've had periods of unemployment myself. But it's bad for everyone when an adult is a non-contributing dependent with no disability or path forward
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Yeah this isn't a great sign as far as job availability and such goes. It's tough on these guys and doubled because of the societal expectation that men are providers.
Yeah, hopefully this will be an opportunity for our culture to shed the idea that men have to be providers to contribute to their households properly as men.
Like, if they're just being stay at home partners who pick up the financial side of their slack with household labor then that's my only real worry outside the fact that every belt has been getting kinda tight.
But also NEETrot is real and that's where a lot of my concern is. I've been on both sides of it and it really sucks for all involved, especially if you aren't getting out and doing things. I worry for these men's mental health and ability to sustain themselves as well as their ability to leave potentially abusive situations they may find themselves in.
I completely agree on every point. It can be dangerous to be the partner that is at home and dependent on the working partner.
More equality is better for men! I'm sure there's a lot of men that are quite suited to being the stay-at-home parent and would love the opportunity and freedom to do so without the stigma.
If chores are taking-up more than 30% of an unemployed person's (waking)free-time, something has gone very wrong. I feel the same way about the free-time of the employed as-well, but that's 25% of another topic.
I'll say it every time it comes up: we need universal basic income set at a thriving wage. The core issue shouldn't be that men are being disproportionately affected by job loss, it should be that they aren't being supported by the same systems that shafted them out of a living.
The article touches upon low/no income benefits, but those are largely for people who are temporarily out of the work force. What happens when the amount of people exceed the number of jobs that pay a living wage, like we see now?
Fine, give us automation, but at least let everyone afford to live.
And critically, men, compared to women, largely don’t qualify for government assistance programs like SNAP or TANF without a disability, meaning when they exit the workforce, the financial burden falls on whoever is closest to them.
What are the qualification for SNAP and TANF related to gender? I thought it was about having kids, which men are free to take care of; though combining incomes and households is kind of a bad idea if you're trying to qualify for benefits.
It's because of dependents. More women have dependents than men.
TANF requires a dependent minor child or a pregnant individual.
SNAP only covers 3 months for able-bodied adults without dependents.
EBT/SNAP benefits are supposed to be available for everyone. Unfortunately/ fortunately* the states control who is eligible and what means testing they are going to use. GOP controlled states have decided that if you're male and working age that you have to spend a fuckton of money up front to get doctors appointments, that if your case survives the decades long process of automated denials and eventually a judge maybe overturning all the illegal denials, despite crippling disabilities, that will maybe say that you are entitled to the benefits that you already paid for with your taxes.
Fortunately* right now because the purple states and blue states ignored the federal EOs that said they needed to do these ridiculous and expensive means testing to determine who gets benefits that, again, you already paid for. All this shit is literally just trying to kill the poor so that the psychologically sick hoarders at the top are able to maintain their disease.
It's still pretty sexist against men
Agreed. This leaves them in much more dire situations and having to rely on others. I wish we had stronger social safety nets for everyone.
other things like in college they receive way more help through various means to get ready for job market, and grad school than men too(lab volunteering preferences over men, scholarships other things). gen z and youngest millennials but not older women dont get this advantage though, usually same boat as men.
It's hard to take anything more than the raw numbers seriously with the amount of opinionated ooze slopping off this article. It goes out of its way to villify the men for spending time on leisure activities while barely giving a sentence to the extreme economic conditions that caused this in the first place. The tone of the article slants this like overgrown man babies are too busy playing videogames and apparently doing opioids??? to get a job while handwaving the bigger issue - an increasingly expensive and hostile economy without safety nets.
Reading the whole article would show that's not true. It goes on at length about how male dominated roles are being adversely impacted by AI, the lack of social safety nets, and how there isn't any push to get men into growing, more stable careers.
Tfw no girlboss girlfriend
the basement thing is becoming very common for both men and women, especially since the layoffs and the covid layoffs, a large increase in post about thier adult children staying at home after job loss or graduation. alot more criticism goes to men, because they are expected in america(america born) to be out the house as soon as possible, while women are less likely to recieve the same anomisty for staying at home until they get married off, and become "independant".
the criticism is the same if both men and women, are at home with no jobs or have a barely part time job, on the internet all the time. its always the siblings/family nagging them to move out in thier 30s, 40s, and beyond even.
POC culture households is different.
this is true for industries like biology, where they far outnumber men with degree, and GRAD degrees. nurses, biotech they have alot of support to get them into it. just not at the PHD level yet, we probably wont see that until maybe 10-20years down the line.