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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 188 points 3 weeks ago

That's a shitty question though. Totally irrelevant to the meat of the story, and definitely not a proof someone read the whole thing and thought about it.

[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 127 points 3 weeks ago

Welcome to the school system

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Questions like that are good to know if somebody read the thing. You don't get details in resumes.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

No, it isn't.

Most people will not retain the name of an animal that doesn't speak. The horse has zero impact on the story, and only serves as a piece of Quixote' personality signifiers

[-] absGeekNZ 9 points 3 weeks ago

I would say Rocinante helps early in the story, with understanding the depth of Quixote's delusion.

Whilst in reality Rocinante is an old workhorse; in the delusion of Don Quixote, Rocinante is a grand charger fit for a knight of the highest order.

Helping to illustrate the core of the story; Don Quixote is applying a veneer of importance and significance over the top of reality. Rocinante is a reflection of the Don himself.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

I agree with the role Rocinante plays for sure.

I just don't think that makes the name of the horse a good question. It's like asking the name of John Wick's dog. The whole movie hinges on the dog, but what name it has is irrelevant.

The point of reading something like Don Quixote isn't the names. Even Pancho's name is barely important. Hell, I'd even argue that the fact we're talking about Don Quixote rather than Alonso Quixano even illustrates that names aren't exactly the prime bit of information that matters.

Now, it is hard to discuss the story without factoring in name changes. Aldonza/Dulcinea in specific is maybe the biggest symbol of what the Don is experiencing, and the underlying theme of the story. But the specific names? It's just a bad question for a high school English teacher to ask a student.

My reasoning is that, no matter what else is retained, names only serve as a point of reference in damn near all literature. When an early exposure to old school, classical literature is happening, the student is going to already be learning three or four things at once, and memorizing the name of a non dialogue character doesn't serve do achieve that learning, or even test how much that student retained.

You've got them trying to learn how to read critically, how to read archaic styles, how to retain important factors, and how to express what they've picked up. The name of an animal that's essentially stage dressing akin to the sword or armor? That's entirely the wrong question.

What would be a good one is, "what does Quixote's horse symbolize?" Or even, "what do you think about his horse?". Both would get the student thinking rather than trying to just pull up a word that's arbitrary.

[-] absGeekNZ 8 points 3 weeks ago

What would be a good one is, “what does Quixote’s horse symbolize?” Or even, “what do you think about his horse?”. Both would get the student thinking rather than trying to just pull up a word that’s arbitrary.

That is a great point.

Significantly better questions; than a name.

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[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 113 points 3 weeks ago

Rocinante and the only reason I know is because of The Expanse.

[-] TheDarkestShark@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

One of my favorite fan theories is that the authors did not name the ship after the horse from don quixote directly. There is a Rush song called Cygnus X-1 that's basically a space opera and the ship in that song is called the Rocinate, and one of the authors of The Expanse is a huge rush fan. So in my mind that is where the ships name comes from.

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[-] sanzky@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I love that the guys say something like "it means war horse". Rocinante is a word play with "Rocin antes". Rocin being an old weak horse unfit for serious work and. 'antes' is the spanish word for 'before'.

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[-] Varesti@lemmy.zip 99 points 3 weeks ago
[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 3 weeks ago

I only know this because of The Expanse.

[-] J92@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I only know the name of the ship from Moby Dick from MGS V.

[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago

That's one badass horse right there

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's pronounced legitimate salvage

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 3 weeks ago

only remember the name because of The Expanse

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago

But if you pronounce it like the show, every Spanish speaker has the right to whoop your ass just once

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

when i moved to austin and everyone was pronouncing guadalupe "guadaloop" and looking at me funny for pronouncing it guadalupe, i got murder eyes for like a month.

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[-] sober_monk@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

laughs in Baaathelona

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[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

Same experience with a really old German book. He wanted to know the color of the hat one of the side characters was wearing. I had no clue, after investing so much time into trying to understand it. That kinda made me give up - why try to participate when the outcome is the same as if I didn't?

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[-] Corngood@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago

I read the book about a year ago and I recently I was trying to remember the name of the horse for some reason. I also completely blanked on it, and it took me a few minutes.

I'm pretty terrible at remembering details like that. My brain just stores things relatively, like 'the main character's brother', even after reading his name a hundred times.

Anon should have just told his teacher that the horse (rocinante) is nothing compared to Sancho's she-ass.

[-] frog@feddit.uk 12 points 3 weeks ago

I never remember the author's name. I have consistently gotten it wrong in nearly every quiz. Lol

[-] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Everyone knows him as Cervantes, even though his full name is Miguel de Cervantes. I live in Castilla-La Mancha and everywhere is Quijote.. I even know a lady called Dulcinea.. not a common name btw.

Edit. Just read this and sorry might have come across overly pedantic. I just got up and my brain is still toast.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 3 weeks ago

i remember it because of soulcalibur

[-] Boozilla@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago

Feel this in my bones. I enjoy reading books, but they go down the memory hole fast for me, especially names.

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I have a strong case of the "My eyes were moving correctly but i was thinking about lunch for the last 3 paragraphs"es

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

For me, the problem with "Rocinante" is I don't know how to pronounce it. So, while reading, I'd skip past it, recognizing that it's the horse, but not parsing it as a word.

If asked that question, I'd need to explain that, but I'd stumble over the word.

If a book has too many oddly (to me) spelled names, I'll skip it for this reason. Apostrophes in the middle and no vowels, and I'm not going to read your book.

[-] baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

Ro Cin An Te

Roh sin ahn the

Rocinante

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago

Why would you make it a 'th' at the end??

[-] baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago

Autocorrect is a motherfucker

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[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 24 points 3 weeks ago

Anon should be disappointed in their teacher, honestly.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago

The names of the 3 musketeers regularly come up in crosswords and no matter how many times I see it I can't remember one of the 4. There's Porthos, Athos, and I believe D'Artagnan was the one who joined later. Doesn't help that their names sound vaguely like the 3 fates: Atropos, Clotho, and Lachesis.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Aramis is the one you’re missing, and he’s also the one I always forget. I can remember porthos and athos because they sound similar, and d’artagnan was the name of the company my old job used for some supplies, but Aramis is too easy a name to forget.

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[-] sumsinj@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Tbh I don't remember more than 2 character names per story. If a chapter contains more than two actors then I am totally confused who those persons were and their relationships and such...

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is why I greatly appreciated how in This Is How You Lose the Time War, there are only two characters that matter and their names are Red and Blue

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[-] affenlehrer@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Have fun with "War and Peace". Sooo many characters and everyone is some kind of Count or Lord with partly similar family names. Many of them also have a Russian and a French name and switch between them depending on context. I listened to the whole thing as audiobook and it basically took me the whole first book (of 4) to get a vague understanding of the characters. Listening helped a little bit because the reader had a slightly different intonation depending on which character was speaking.

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[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wasn't it a donkey? I think it was named Rocinante? Idk, I read it like 16 years ago.

Edit post-Wikipedia: it was a workhorse, not a donkey, but I nailed the name. I've wondered in the past if Geralt's horse Roach in The Witcher was a nod to Rocinante

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[-] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Are we supposed to say "ask me a harder question" in this situation?

[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

horsey mchorseyton

[-] FluidBeef@quokk.au 9 points 3 weeks ago

Horsey McHorseface

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Rocinante! Can’t believe I remembered that. That book is a hoot.

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