I fucking hate this kind of people, I'm sorry, but I do. My country is full of them, this is literally the default here...
Save meeee, I wanna go to the Netherlands or some place 😭
Penis=child will be forced into football causing much pain and suffering in the chance they'll be able to get a multi-million contract to get concussions on live tv.
Vagina=child will be starved and forced to wear shoes that are extremely painful and dance for someone else's visual enjoyment. The dance can also be damaging to the body.
When I see all the peewee football camps here I just feel depressed. I call them concussion camps.
I spent most of my public education life as a straight young boy avoiding team sports in gym class like the fucking plague.
Junior year of high school, I find out I could 1.5x gym credits for taking dance, figured I'd tolerate that in order to get my gym requirement out of the way faster.
Dance class: I'm working harder, significantly more involved and engaged, having more fun, and I get to start the day out hanging out with mostly girls in leotards. There was literally no down side.
Straight guys who avoid dancing are fucking idiots.
I've never liked dancing. I've just had more fun with masculine stuff like table tennis, badminton, programming, baking, skirts, dresses, makeup, and estrogen.
There's such a shortage of boys in ballet that they can go to classes at either a heavily reduced rate or completely free. And if you didn't know, ballet is fucking expensive.
Sorry but you won't escape this kind of thinking in the Netherlands either 😅
Nooooo 😭
My dream is shattered
Spain seems a better option (can any spaniard confirm?)
It is significantly less prevalent from my perspective than in other places. Less forceful and less in your face. Still there
I am cisfem, I wrestled for 6 years ending my junior year after copious amounts of harassment and a sexual harassment and discrimination lawsuit against one of my coaches. Fun! We moved around a lot so I experienced a lot of attitudes around it. Not all bad, some of my coaches were super into having me, one was having a baby daughter with his wife and followed my career to the end! I’m sure she knows all about me!
These days there are girl’s programs for that all over the place, but back then my choice was to be on a boy’s team or, if offered (never was) gymnastics was supposed to be a physically equivalent sport if the school had both, so had I gone somewhere big with both gymnastics and wrestling I could have never gone nearly to state in wrestling and been offered tryouts for the olympics.
I didn't place well enough, because I come from a shitty country that trains people in yokel wrestling and not what they do everywhere else, but that’s not the point. I didn't want to do gymnastics, I'm not coordinated. I have no interest in something where I can fall and hurt myself, other than climbing trees and short buildings. I’d never have been good enough to try out for the olympics as a gymnast. Most of my wins were mat technique or pins, and I created a cradle nobody could mimic or get out of if they got into it, because they were too lanky to have leverage, because they were adolescent boys, I had flexibility and “stopped growing at 12 and started training” short girl muscle.
Thanks for letting me rave about my long past history :)
Firstly, I'm very sorry to hear about the harassment you received. That shit sucks.
Secondly, I'd be very interested to hear more about what you meant by your country not teaching modern wrestling. (I assume we're talking freestyle rather than Greco-Roman?) Has it really changed that much?
The US does folkstyle throughout non-college school years, rather than either of the forms of wrestling that are done in olympics. Its just an entirely different system. If you want to learn freestyle to be internationally competitive or wrestle for colleges, you have to spend a ton of money on camps and stuff to learn.
Kid gender ideology is capitalism trying to get everyone to buy colors of toys/clothes for one kid with a 50% chance of them not wanting to reuse them for the second kid.
A mother at our bus stop rolled out a 1 yr old in a pink pusher car apolegitcally saying they were going to get their aunt to get him a red one this week.
it's not really an issue pushing a boy around in a ping car
if you can't deal, there is always spraypaint.
My son has a big sister, you can bet your ass he's pushed around in a pink / purple fairy covered car while wearing pink socks. Idiot parents throwing money out the window because of fucking colours.
That woman knows not the glories of Rome, for it was pink that marked a legion as having earned glories and not the untested red they matched with first. A vexillum still stands yet fools are blinded to the glories of Rome!
Also pink is a very safe color, it pops to the human eyes due to being relatively rare in nature unlike red or blue. Frankly more safety vests need to be made pink and thinned skinned morons forced to deal with it.
Its funny too because pink was once the 'boy' color and blue was the girl color.
If I'm not mistaken, it was red. Because that was commonly the colour of kings
I wouldn't go as far as to say I hated sports as a penis-haver, but they did always put me to sleep. They were boring and then the adults would scream at the TV for something or another and wake me up from my snooze. Why do I want to watch a bunch of blurs run around a field be narrated by two old guys? or a bunch of cars going in circles narrated by two old guys?
I still don't get it. Dad took me to a baseball game once and all I can remember is the drunk old lady yelling at the players from right behind me.
Yeah, my dad trys so hard to get me into watching the blues play or go to a boring ass baseball game. Yes they're fun for him but my god there's nothing going on, hell in baseball for half the game they aren't even playing.
I can understand thinking baseball is boring despite not agreeing, but there isn’t a sport more frenetic and exciting than hockey imo. Especially playoff hockey.
Hockey is exciting if you’re into the match and/or sport.
He hits the puck, now someone else hits the puck, wow the first guy just hit the puck again, the puck is now in a net, the crowd is screaming!
I’d rather read a book.
The only benefit I see is a more safe outlet for tribalism. Otherwise, you get maga.
I'm not sure this follows. Sports exist and we still have maga
¿Por Qué No Los Dos?
I do hate them, too. I'm with you. You're not alone. Hugs. 🫂🫂🫂
Thank you 🫂
Do people argue this irl ?
I mean, is a fucking cake, don't care about gender of it.
Yea they absolutely do lol. This points to all gender essentialism I think, which is definitely something that is still very present.
Yes
I don't like either.
You're entitled to your own opinion. As long as you're respectful and don't spew hatred everywhere (not accusing you of that), you're good.
I'm just curious, what exactly do you mean?
I'm guessing they don't like football or ballet
Football or ballet.
I see. I misread your intentions and I apologize.
Lots of trolls here today, don't know why...I think the troll farms are waking up
This is why I always say, the cistem = gender ideology. After all, it's forcing your image upon others.
As a european, I would go for the ballet over American "football" anytime.
Are the cis okay?
Cis? Some of them. Cultural conservatives? No.
i HATE sports in general
They're completely blind to their own hypocrisy too.
But we all know the dominant ideology is not an ideology at all. /s
This one's doubly weird, since there's a long tradition of American football players taking ballet or dance classes to help with footwork, flexibility, and timing.
They really forced gender based division when I was a kid, elder millennial. I've noticed it's ingrained in most people my age. It took me forever to get my husband to wear pink, as an example.
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