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President Donald Trump threatened to veto every piece of legislation put forward during the second half of his administration if Democrats flip control of the House or Senate during next month’s midterm elections.

“Well, I think the Republicans are going to win. But if there was, you call it gridlock, what happens is I veto everything,” Trump told reporters Friday morning while speaking on the South Lawn. “And then the Democrats come and they want to make a deal. So we’ll work it out.”

Historical precedent and polling data suggest Democrats are on the cusp of flipping at least the House next month and possibly the Senate, due to public frustration over the Iran war and high costs of living.

So, they will override his veto

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[-] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I for one can't wait to see how democrats will snatch failure from the jaws of victory on this one. Can they impeach him 2 more times with zero consequences?

[-] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

You need 2/3rds of the senate to convict so if the best case scenario happens (something like a 54 dem - 46 gop split) Trump still won't get convicted becuase dems still need a dozen gop members to vote with them. So yeah Trump won't get convicted. It's not really dems fault; the rules are dumb as fuck.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Seeing as they've already helped the Republicans vote down impeachment this year and not just a onsie, twosie thing either. I mean I think it's a foregone conclusion that the centrist assholes in leadership aren't going to do fuck all.

I'm fully expecting these jackasses to be like all of the other centrist apologists on social media and fall back on the excuse of "Well Republicans in the Senate won't vote for it so it's better to not try to hold Trump accountable at all." weak sauce bullshit. We all know that when the going gets tough, the centrists don't do shit.

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago

Demonizing bills only because they are introduced by Democrats, rather than seeking unity, compromise and common interests, sounds like bad faith to me.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I’ll settle for nothing happening the next couple years. I had thought it was bad before with how dysfunctional Congress has been, then it got on its knees for this wannabe king to walk all over it and things are so much worse than I ever thought possible.

Nothing happening would be a huge step forward

[-] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Yeah I was going to get worked up at this until I read your comment.

As much as it sucks to have a Pause on anything happening in the federal government for two years, it's better than Everything Happening And It's All Bad.

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[-] Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

They won't have enough majority to override and will get blamed for not fixing everything and in '28 they choose maga again. I hope I'm wrong tho.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's why this has to be blue tsunami or the next two years will be down the drain as far as passing anything.

They still need to make the effort just so that people will see Trump vetoing the "don't rape children act" every month.

But I fear they'll just use the lack of veto override as an excuse to stay on vacation for another two years.

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago

Cool. Threaten to shut down government while running for re-election.

USA needs to take POTUS behind the shed and dock his balls. The system gives POTUS far too much power.

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

~~The system gives~~ The supreme court and congress gave POTUS far too much power.

POTUS was co-equal with checks and balances but the Heritage Foundation's betrayal of democracy has been focused on concentrating power in the executive so they can make Gilead.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

That's the system. Why the fuck is SCOTUS a job for life.

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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So, they will override his veto

Flipping both won't override a veto. They need 2/3.

So, that's not going to work out.

Recall that Democrats couldn't muster a majority to pass higher minimum wage with house and senate.

(I mean, they could have, of course, they just don't)

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

That’s cause they’re controlled opposition

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 147 points 6 days ago

“And then the [other party] comes and they want to make a deal. So we’ll work it out.”

Uh, yeah. That's how it usually works.

Why do I get the impression that his idea of "making a deal" involves paying him personally?

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago

Well if you kick a dog 99 times when you walk in the door it's probably expecting to get kicked the next time

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[-] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 93 points 6 days ago

Dems will likely do well, but I don’t think they’ll get 2/3rd majority and republicans for sure aren’t gonna help Dems, they’re too far gone.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 69 points 6 days ago

And idiotic low-info voters (many of them are self-styled "independents", LOL) will then blame the Democrats for not doing enough and send in Republicans again.

[-] auzy1@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

They're not low info voters. They're generally just closeted far right whingers.

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[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Part of me actually wonders if he is fucking up badly enough that there are enough republicans willing to vote to remove at this point. Not because of any moral issues but because his bullshit is actually bothering rich people at this point and the MAGA cult has significantly less influence now so they are less worried about being removed via primary.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

That's the problem with Republicans. Even when they disagree, they always vote in unison. It's why we have the ratchet effect. Republicans always vote together regardless of their own personal views and Democrats vote with their feelings. When Republicans are in power, they move right quickly without dissent. When Democrats are in power, they cannot agree on how to vote and it causes gridlock.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 36 points 5 days ago

Of course he will. Dems should expect nothing less. So pass great legislation, let him veto it, and run against that in 2028.

in the meantime, use the time to investigate EVERYBODY. Put their crimes and arrogance on record, and expose the entire MAGA party for the treasonous, criminal, pedophiles they ALL are.

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[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 56 points 5 days ago

A very clear statement that he values petty party politics more than leadership of the nation.

The un-patriot president. Anti-citizen one.

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

His entire presidency has been a very clear statement of his values.

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[-] orlyowl@piefed.ca 68 points 6 days ago

So, they will override his veto

I will be giddy if Dems win enough seats to have the 2/3 of both house and senate it takes to do so.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 69 points 6 days ago

If that happens and sticks (and he is removed from the presidency), come back to this comment and I will send you $1,000. No joke.

I'm not worried. But I promise I will honour this.

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[-] Pegajace@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Dems would have to win all but two of the thirty-three 2026 Senate races to reach 67 votes (including independents). I wouldn't hold my breath.

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[-] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 28 points 5 days ago

Can't veto an impeachment Donny boy.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Don't be so sure. I wouldn't be surprised if the supreme court said he could.

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[-] Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 17 points 5 days ago

That's fine but the hope is that he'll never get anything past ever again. And maybe they can defund his big beautiful bill. And one would hope they wouldn't be bowing to their israeli taskmasters but let's not put the card before the horse.

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[-] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is kinda how it goes every mid-term election. I’m used to it by now. The way the US government is designed is hostile to progress and dragging its feet the whole time. The few moments when any party gets multiple seats of power, they sprint as far and fast as they can before the gears get clogged again.

You gotta just play the hand you’re dealt. If democrats win a majority, but not a supermajority, their job is to at least stop things from getting worse for a while.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The few moments when any party gets multiple seats of power, they sprint as far and fast as they can before the gears get clogged again.

Republicans, certainly.

But I was around for the Obama first term. He was terminally West Wing brained. Fully convinced he was going to get 70+ Senators on every vote, because Lindsey Graham and John McCain and Susan Collins were his close friends.

Fucking chump.

You gotta just play the hand you’re dealt. If democrats win a majority, but not a supermajority, their job is to at least stop things from getting worse for a while.

I predict that Congress will find it doesn't have a majority to pass any useful legislation domestically.

But what they will have is an overwhelming Pro-Israel majority. Also, just enough votes to ban transgender athletes from women's sports at a national level

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[-] Azal@pawb.social 17 points 5 days ago

What did McConnell say? His goal was to make Obama a lame duck president. Here we go.

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[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Sounds like a quick way to get impeached(again) with the followup removal this time... Because Trump doesn't have the decency to step down.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

Who cares? At best you'll get nothing done. That is better than getting bad things done IMO.

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[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago

Just a reminder...the reds outright said during Biden's term that they would outright block any meaningful legislation for the sole reason to make him look bad. They give absolute ZERO FUCKS about actually making America great again but only about enriching themselves.

[-] 4TBHMeCCL@suppo.fi 13 points 5 days ago

If you want to read the article but are blocked by Cloudflare, there is an copy on Wayback machine.

Other words for those who are searching: bypass paywall, archive copy.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

I think if Trump vetoes everything, voters might actually not blame Democrats for getting nothing done, so that might actually carry over the anger for two years and help a real blue wave happen. So that might be nice, IF we can minimize establishment Dems fucking shit up and get more progressives in there.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 15 points 5 days ago

So what? So Democrats will at least be a check on the lawless corruption and incompetence of the Trump administration. That's what the other 2 co-equal branches of government are supposed to do! Fuck Republicans and their kissing the ring of our wannabe mad king...

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

vetoing everything would be a vast vast improvement.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Don't threaten me with a good time. That'll just make Republicans look even worse.

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