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[-] homes@piefed.world 178 points 2 months ago

If “alternative medicine” worked, it would just be called “medicine“.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 63 points 2 months ago

Im all on the "listen to the medical experts" train.

There are however some medicines and treatments that legitimately started as "alternative".

A lot of it is horseshit though.

Also modern medicine isn't infallible(nor the people that practice it).

Statistically though, it's fucking high magic compared to most internet sourced diagnoses.

[-] Mediocre_Bard_Redeux@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

Also modern medicine isn’t infallible(nor the people that practice it).

Have friends in the medical field, a lot of time they are just sort of trying shit and then are happy it worked.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 41 points 2 months ago

Medical science is just that, medicine that follows the scientific method. (Or at least it's supposed to).

The scientific method is basically testing guesses (sometimes educated ones) and seeing what happens.

There's a whole lot of structure and guidelines, but testing guesses(hypotheses) is where it's at mostly.

The current state of any science is usually "the best theory we have right now, given the data and resources available to us"

Some people hear that and think "look, they're just guessing, why should I listen to them?" and thats absolutely valid.

Where that falls down is that they then go on to assume all guesses are equal and ignore the time and resources that went in to that current scientific best guess.

Is it always correct? no, is it more likely to be beneficial than a random social media post by an influencer with no medical expertise? Generally yes.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

The people who "guess" are guessing way down the decision tree, not like hmm is this cancer or a flu?

They also are highly trained, in a field that is centuries old.

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[-] fizzle@quokk.au 17 points 2 months ago

sort of trying shit and then are happy it worked

Most professions could be described like this, but when doctors are "trying shit" it is backed up by many years of training and education, and their behavior is scrutinised by professional bodies and so on.

When your local quack is "trying shit" it's just based on the vibe.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

The difference between medicine and "alternative medicine" is proof of effectiveness. If something provably works it's medicine.

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[-] fizzle@quokk.au 9 points 2 months ago

"Alternative medicine" is too broad a term to be helpful.

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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

George Carlin from the grave: By calling it an 'alternative' you are directly implying that it is not the actual thing.

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[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 113 points 2 months ago

I've actually met a lot of people who know a lot about what happened to him. Theres an entire industry and field of academics dedicated solely to it and places of business in pretty much every town across the nation for it.

They're called Doctors.

[-] volore@scribe.disroot.org 61 points 2 months ago

WOAH WOAH WOAH careful with those emotions, buddy, they asked for objective understanding! Don't you know that means rejecting the expertise of the people who spent their entire lives studying the human body and what ails it; and believing unquestioningly the medical advice of the Oompa Loompa rapist pedophile in chief (and his pal with brain worms)?

[-] BewareOfIdiot@nord.pub 11 points 2 months ago

Okay Sir please calm down, we all know we can't trust those "Doctors" and their "Medical Degrees". It's just hokus pokus, it's not like there's been decades upon decades of scientific testing and proving! You probably believe we landed on the moon too HAH! Space ain't even real, like how would they even breath if there's no air? #checkmate

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 87 points 2 months ago

$500 bottle of ivermectin!?!?!

Somehow, that's the worst part of this to me -- somebody got hugely ripped off. I regularly need to buy ivermectin for actual horses, and it's $10-$15 for a horse-sized dose. And this dumb motherfucker spent $500 on a single bottle?

[-] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

I know 4 people, who use the horse version. Because they raise cattle they can get it and they use it for themselves. One of them used to help his cancer treatment.

  1. That's 4 to many.

  2. So you actually want to die

[-] Draegur@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised you KNOW four people rather than very specifically KNEW, past tense, four people...

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 18 points 2 months ago

Because they raise cattle they can get it

Anybody can get it.

Walk into a Tractor Supply, North 40, or any animal feed/supply store, and you can pick some up right off the shelf.

For a while there, curing covid mania, cashiers were actually asking people for a picture of their livestock before they'd sell it to you, but even then you could have just shown them any picture of any horse and that would have been enough.

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

The text on this post is fabricated, and the image in unrelated to the fabricated story. >.>

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 79 points 2 months ago

The amount of people taking antiworm medicine who support a worm brained health guru is too high.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

RFKjr is not worm brained!

The brain worm died from starvation!

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I thought that they would be the target demographic for a deworming medicine companies.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Mebendazole and ivermectin combined to 275mg? The typical ivermectin dose alone is .2mg/kg, so a 180lb/81.5kg person would only take 16-ish mg. So this person took way more ivermectin than needed for a parasitic infection (and stupid for taking it without one). Mebebdazole is 100mg/x2 a day, so this is more than double the dose for a single recommended pill.

Just in case anyone wants to know how much not to take.

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 months ago

But what if they had 17 parasitic infections to remove?

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

i think ever since covid ivermectin has become a magical cureall for idiots, and the more the betterer as far as the dosage goes.

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[-] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

This dude knows his horse dewormer...

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 11 points 2 months ago

It's also a human dewormer, or many other kinds of parasite. At proper dosage it's generally a very safe drug. Two things.

  1. Ivermectin is a drug that costs cents to make 100s of pills. If you're paying $500 for a bottle... They saw you coming.
  2. Don't buy medications from scammers. See point 1.
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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Depending on his weight that could be quite a high dose of ivermectin (the normal dose is 0.2mg/kg) but that seems like an extreme reaction.

I see four possibilities:

  • He's very light weight and sensitive to the drug
  • He's having an allergic reaction
  • He actually did have a parasite infection and he's having a Mazzotti reaction.
  • The company that sold it didn't mix the drugs properly before compounding them and overdosed the pills.
[-] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago

Or the company who sold it sold fake or cut drugs.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 9 points 2 months ago

mebendezol

Never heard of it so probably not a great recreational drug. Oooh Wikipedia confirms

Mebendazole is a highly effective, broad-spectrum antihelmintic indicated for the treatment of nematode infestations

Mebendazole sometimes causes diarrhea, abdominal pain, and elevated liver enzymes. In rare cases, it has been associated with a dangerously low white blood cell count, low platelet count, and hair loss,[14][15] with a risk of agranulocytosis in rare cases.

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[-] BeUnique@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Please no emotions as I am a looksmaxxing robot that only cares about looking great and being confused why women don't like me

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[-] Etterra@discuss.online 28 points 2 months ago

Explanation: You're a gullible idiot. Don't worry, I'll be sure and tell everyone at your funeral.

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[-] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago
[-] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Is "lol" an emotion?

[-] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 12 points 2 months ago

"Please don't point out that I made a huge mistake and should have known better"

[-] luthis 23 points 2 months ago

One less voter for magastan I hope

[-] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago
[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 months ago

This guy is taking medical advice from conspiracy theorists for COVID. he ODed on dewormer meds and is posting from.the inside of the ambulance

[-] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

See, I'm not a native speaker, so I thought a "wellness company" was something like a hospital.

[-] ratofkryll@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

It's a private company in the "health and wellness" industry. Basically modern day snake oil salesmen that convince vulnerable (or stupid) people that "big pharma" is evil and giving you cancer or whatever, while the mystery pill they're peddling will cure anything that ails you. It typically comes with a hefty price tag, lots of sales pressure, and zero evidence to back it up.

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[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 months ago

Bad news, OOP — killing yourself will give you more worms, not fewer.

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[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

And these people get to vote....

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

I have a theory sir: you are an idiot!

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