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submitted 6 hours ago by Bad@jlai.lu to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world

[a study paper is shown, with some of the text legible]
STUDY RESULTS
GIVING POOR PEOPLE MONEY REDUCES CRIME MORE THAN GIVING COPS THAT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY
CONCLUSION
If you want to reduce crime, take care of your community's primary needs instead of funding cops so much

[an orange character in a suit has stamped a paper labeled MORE POLICE FUNDING BILL, and is grinning]
Heh, you think we don't know?

https://thebad.website/comic/scientific_policing

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[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 minutes ago

Not just money though. You need to also have social support programs.

[-] myyass@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

So the point missed is that the goal is prison labor. Why pay someone to process toll booths on a computer for a few dollars a day while having the taxpayer cover their expense and pay for the prison?

[-] StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 9 points 3 hours ago
[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 2 hours ago

Neither did the cops.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 69 points 6 hours ago

Republicans are often seen to be better on crime. Not because crime goes down under republicans, but because they talk about cops and punishment more.

Easy sell: stop crime by going after criminals.

Harder sell: stop crime by preventing the things that make people criminals.

[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

That's exactly it.

The GOP cornered the moronic "Law & Order" narrative because they're fascists who want a police state.

Establishment Dems also want a police state but know their voterbase doesn't. So they try to sell a police state, under different words, and still refuse to talk about any actually meaningful alternatives. Its why cunts like Hakeem Jefferies refuse to fight to abolish ICE even though abolishing ICE polls better than "reforming" it.

Only DSA candidates are pushing real solutions. That's why establishment Dems are fighting them harder in 1 year than they've fought Trump in 10 years.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 24 points 6 hours ago

People are pretty stupid and uncritically believe the myths about the republican party. Guy I worked with said "the republicans will unlock the economy" so he voted for trump. And then tariffs borked his business, and the war in iran probably killed some of his family. But he still jokes, as an iranian immigrant, about ICE abductions. Some people are just stupid.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

Some people are stupid, but most I think are selfish and narrow minded, but also not stupid.

[-] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 13 points 5 hours ago

Same with conservatives in Europe – and it's also the same with government efficiency. They get "issue ownership" because they talk about it a lot, but I've never heard of conservative politicians who've actually made government more efficient.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 5 hours ago

It's a harder sell, but it's impacted by media straight up not talking about policy that way. Investigative journalism in America (and probably the broader West) is essentially dead, so the public becomes wildly uninformed and has to go off vibes.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Definitely true. I think it’s a big part because of who owns the media.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

If the pope would crack down on crime more with all that Vatican money the republicans wouldn't have to spend so much on crime. Pretty much nothing bad is really their fault fyi.

[-] cRazi_man@europe.pub 34 points 6 hours ago

You mistakenly think that the purpose is to reduce crime and improve people's lives.

People in power (and unfortunately most people not in power also) think that there is a "fair" order to things. Those deserving will be successful, and the undeserving will not (and should not and must not) get anything. The strength of the power of the police+law is to protect the deserving from the undeserving. Not to make a fair or just or happy society. There are many who would happily lobby to refuse all emergency services, rights, legal protections, healthcare, etc to those who are "undeserving".

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 19 points 6 hours ago

That's the heart of conservatism: hierarchy

There are many who would happily lobby to refuse all emergency services, rights, legal protections, healthcare, etc to those who are “undeserving”.

I go on about this a lot, but the book "Dying of Whiteness" has examples of that. One guy literally was dying but still didn't want those people to have free health care, even if it would save his life.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

You say that as though Liberalism didn't immediately start with hierarchy. Liberalism literally said that power should be in the hands of the wealthy, not the hands of the hereditary aristocracy. Liberalism emerged precisely because merchants got super wealthy and then found that no matter how much money they had, the king decided if they got land. So Liberalism emerged as something to replace the hierarchy of the nobility with, specifically the hierarchy of wealth. All the "universal" equality shit of liberalism was invented to get the poor peasantry to agree. There was never a single day of liberalism anywhere on planet earth that saw an absence of hierarchy.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

Bit of a waffles and pancakes response, or maybe squares and rectangles.

I am inclined to agree with you, but don't see what you're saying as a contradiction of what I said.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 38 minutes ago

Conservatism emerged as a response to Liberalism. Hierarchy is at the heart of the society that creates both of them, neither of them are about hierarchy. The heart of conservatism is the preservation of a status quo that itself is maintained entirely through systems that produce stability. The heart of liberalism is the preservation of a status quo through mercantile dynamism, where one person may be at the top of heap one day and fall to the bottom the next without necessarily resorting to violence.

I think it is inaccurate at best, and deliberately misleading at worst, to say hierarchy is the heart of conservatism. History isn't a vibe.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 25 minutes ago

Conservatism is built on support for monarchy, the most hierarchy of hierarchy.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 minutes ago

No. Conservatism is a reaction to Liberalism. Liberalism is a hierachical system with different mechanisms than monarchy. Conservatism was not reacting to the hierachical aspect of Liberalism but to the stability aspect. Because it was a reaction to Liberalism, it didn't need to defend hierarchy, it only needed to defend the systems of power distribution that Liberalism was attacking.

You're doing vibes and it isn't working.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

I think you were schooling me a few weeks ago on this subject, and I never responded. If that was you, thank you for your infomative response.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 hours ago

Voters think that though. Waking them up from the illusion may help.

Plus, honestly, most people drink their own kool aid so I wouldn't be surprised if our leaders did believe this despite all evidence. The desire to think of yourself as a good person can overpower most evidence.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

If you're born into money, you have two options:

Either you believe you don't truly deserve all this money, and you live with the existential angst and dread this causes you until you slowly kill yourself through drugs and alcohol, or you give it all away and live as a poor nomad.

OR you believe you truly deserve all that money. And since you know you didn't actually DO anything to get it, it must be because you were BORN better than everyone else. Genetically superior.

Which do you think most people choose?

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

And if you're not born into money it's:

  1. You can be rich if you just apply yourself.

or

  1. You are trapped in a system that will keep you in poverty your entire life no matter what you do.

Which message would you choose?

Edit. And if you grew up rich and wanted to protect the system that put you in charge of a media company, which message would you choose to propagate?

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 5 points 5 hours ago

Two separate thoughts:

I think people interested in policing should read:

  • Angela Davis: Are Prisons Obsolete ( pdf | audiobook )

  • the prison industrial complex exists to protect capital not to protect people.

this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2026
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