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submitted 4 days ago by OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I see friends, family, strangers, subconsciously go for their phones during thoughtless times daily. Have a moment to think... Scroll. Showering with their phone propped up watching a video. First wake up and spend an hour or two frying the mind.

It has gotten so bad in my friend group and close family I swear they could not function emotionally without consuming content. When you bring it up or any negative about it. Anger, distasteful emotions. How do you talk, convince, gain real traction towards slowing or decreasing time spent. Once or twice a day could be ok. These people do it for sometimes hours daily. It's sickening. Advice?

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[-] Necrifyre@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

Buddy, as a believer of free will, I would suggest that you and others like you would put down the idea of trying to control others. How would you feel if someone saw everything that you did and say "you know, I don't like what it is that you're doing, so I'm going to try and control what you do"? You wouldn't like that for very long.

People are going to decide as to how they spend their time, even at their own detriment. There's little you can do, all you can do is just suggest or advise. But you're looking for just straightforward convincing and control.

You have to be in your own lane.

[-] tigermountain@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

It's like any other addiction. You can't do anything to stop them until they want to do it themselves. Maybe the best course is to show them by example.

[-] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 102 points 4 days ago

I'm gonna be probably a little too real here... This...uh...might not be the best place to ask. It's kinda like running into a bar and asking everyone how they stay sober. It's a nicer bar than the divey place down the road but...it's a bar.

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 4 days ago

I kinda agree, but it's also a very small bar with mostly empty shelves.

I'm usually reading my all-feed, and after like 20-30 minutes I'm into single digit upvote counts (if I even read to the end). So you're gonna have a hard time spending "hours" per day here, unless you're also on other platforms.

[-] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

I spend the missed time picking fights with strangers I know I’ll disagree with fundamentally. That keeps shit real lively.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Oh, some of us manage it....

Then again, I have a lot of time on my hands that has to be completely interruptable at a moment's notice

[-] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

☝️ when I say I'm on Lemmy all day, I mean all day. I hope I find some good advice in this thread.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

I disagree with you. Even on reddit there were communities to stop doomscrolling.

[-] opiumfree@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

this is singlehandedly the hardest thing abour wanting to quit scrolling. when i’m scrolling suddenly everyone is an internet free health nut that doesn’t even know what tiktok is and i’m the stupid chud. then when i’m offline everyone NEEDS to scroll for 5 hours a day and be up to date on the most niche youtube drama while i am left out. it’s likt not smoking in the 1940s

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 4 days ago

My advice: don't try to control other people's behavior. Maybe discuss your personal choices and encourage folks to do the same once or twice, but if you try more than that you're gonna strain your relationships.

[-] RandomHugs@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I agree and share this approach. I'll happily explain to my friends why I don't interact with 'traditional social media', or why I don't want Google knowing every single detail about me, if they ask. I won't shame them or nag on them about their choices. It has worked without any issues until recently when I befriended a couple, who has two kids. Compared to other friends, these two are the most extreme cases of scrollers I've ever seen.

I'll be in the middle of telling a story and suddenly one of them will pull up their phone and stop listening. The weird thing is that I genuinely believe that they don't really register the behavior, or that their intention is to be rude impolite. When it happens, the situation naturally becomes a bit awkward because I'll get thrown off and stop talking, they notice what they just did, and sincerely apologize for the disrespect. They've explained and ensured me that whatever topic or story we were discussing isn't the reason, but oh boy does it feel like a personal insult every single time.

I understand why it happens, it's a behavioral pattern. But an adult should not have to be reminded to listen to their friends.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Sometimes I have been talking with a friend and one of us says something that sparks a question in my head. The urge to look it up is powerful. Yes it's rude but so is verbally interrupting in order to share the thought before the topic is gone. I mention this not as an excuse but to say it doesn't necessarily mean they aren't interested in what you're saying, and sometimes they're still listening even though they're look at the phone.

Also "inslut" includes an example of its own meaning.

[-] RandomHugs@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

No, I wouldn't mind if someone took out their phone to look something up that was related to the topic, that is understandable and can be politely done without disturbing a conversation. But the reason to pick up their phone has only been to scroll Tiktok or Instagram, and what made them pick up the phone was not because they lacked interest in the subject, but because an ~~unconscious behavior urge~~ addiction. Some people can multitask, most can't, and some say they can but really can't.

As I mentioned, both have genuinely excused themselves and apologized every time it has happened, and we all pretty much laugh it off at this point. They usually roll their eyes and sigh at themselves for "doing it again", it's not really a situation where I even have to say something before they notice themselves. If I didn't take the excuse seriously I wouldn't take it so lightly, but since they are self aware of the habit and apologize there's nothing else to say. It's their choice if they want to continue with their addiction or not, and as awful as it may sound - at least they are self aware, not everyone are.

Also "inslut" includes an example of its own meaning.

Haha, thanks for the catch! Ever since I recently enabled autocorrect on my phone these strange spelling errors has started to occur. Don't ask me how it reasoned there.

[-] SSETranquility@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I've learned this technique by practicing the 12 Steps, if that's your thing. It's their addiction that's out of my control.

Also, I intend to learn more about cults and the steps to make someone realize their life could be different without the cult. That's a tough, long game tho. It could really be worth the investment of your time to your loved one.

[-] ace_garp@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

Challenge them to bloom-scroll, and actually learn something.

wikitok.io

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Or wikwok on f droid !

[-] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 7 points 4 days ago

That's so damn cool!

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago

Goddamn it I have work to do today.

[-] eepydeeby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

Thank you so so so much for this!!!!! Sharing it with everyone I love brb

[-] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Almost what I was looking for!

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Its their life. I would try offering better alternatives to things they are already using.

[-] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 days ago

But mobilek is my best friend. You shouldn't put your best friend down.

[-] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago
[-] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

If it originates from you I think you've coined a new word. It just feels right.

Thanks for drawing; I enjoy your content. Like mobilek it just feels real.

[-] JTode@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

The only soul you will ever be able to save is your own.

Set an example, invite them outside to play, or suggest a board game night, basically offer them options that get them away from it, but expect most of them to just keep scrolling for your own mental health.

[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

To add on to this: it is important to not engage with their bad habits. If they send you a link to reddit or Instagram or tiktok, don't look at it and don't react to it. If they ask about it, "oh yeah i don't use reddit anymore". Even say you've blocked it for your own mental health.

Theother person may need to choose between you and the content. Their choice may hurt, but it needs to be made.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

I spend a lot of time away from my devices. I've even got written up at work because coworkers tried contacting me like 5 different ways but I wasn't checking my phone for most of the day. I was doing archery and rock climbing at the time. I also be doing hiking and airsoft. I be doing a lot of things.

I used to be a social media addict and so I can give tips on getting off of it and being less dependent though:

  1. Disable notifications
  2. Transition DMs off of social media platforms to more messenger specific apps
  3. Delete the apps and now only visit via website
  4. Delete your account all together

Along the way, you should obviously find stuff to do that isn't doom scrolling. There are endless of hobbies out there, book reading, yoyoing, rubiks cubes, balisong spinning, begleri, chess, lockpicking, geocaching, etc.

[-] xiao@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

Would try to convince them to use an eink device.

Like this one

https://mudita.com/products/phones/mudita-kompakt/

[-] HaveMeOnYourPodcast@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

This was the way for me. I started carrying around the XTEINK x3 in a little case strapped to my wallet and whenever I'm out and have downtime I just read a few pages. I've read more books in the last few months than the last decade.

Currently reading Leech by Hiron Ennes

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Eesh. Taking a phone into the shower sounds like "talk to a medical professional" level of addiction...

[-] brosaph@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I had always listened to music when I took a shower as a kid, now I'll put on a youtube video essay or news or podcast etc. I'm not actively watching the video, just some mentally engaging/ interesting background noise. Recently been listening to Gutsick Gibbon's evolution lectures to Will Duffy.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

How often are you completely devoid of everything "mentally engaging" aside from your own thoughts?

[-] LateNightDebugging@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

you start from buying a board game and have a family board game night

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Center your activities either around things that need both hands (sports, creative hobbies) or in remote location with no cell service.

Maybe board game night specifically without cellphones.

If you want to stop their use in day to day life, it sucks but it's an addiction that is completely socially acceptable. Be prepared to get some flak for frustrating their dopamine rush. The options are limited and you won't come off as helping to say the least.

I think phone use is tied to boredom personally, so if you notice someone falling into an hour long loop, invite them to do something I guess.

[-] trojanbark@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I invite friends and family members on walks but tell them no phones are allowed. If they need to bring it in casenof emergency, they have to turn it on silent

[-] phonics@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Would be interesting to say, phones allowed. To subtly indicate this is generally a no phone activity. And they may challenge themselves to not use it on their own.

[-] untorquer@quokk.au 3 points 4 days ago

This is way too subtle, the message will not be received.

[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Give them something better to do when you're with them, like have them play a game or something.

[-] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

It's digital heroin. We who are still awake must legislate a law against it or humanity is doomed.

[-] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

I would focus on what you can control. I think you could politely mention that you think they are on the phone too much and you feel it is an unhealthy habit. I would say that's about the most I would intervene. It gets them thinking about the amount of time they are on the phone/internet and leaves it in their hands to make a change.

Anything more than that will be seen as pushy and overstepping, which will just give them a reason to dismiss you. The main thing I'll say here is that it's not your responsibility to "save" the people you care about in your life. The biggest impact you can have is focusing on yourself and setting a positive example for those around you.

[-] octobob@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

I've struggled with this myself but I've gotten a lot better. I kept deleting the Instagram app so the temptation wasn't there to scroll reels, but then I'd redownload to post a story and fall right back into the same trap. Well I have a tablet that I only use for reading manga, watching movies/tv/anime via plex, and sometimes stream games from Steam via my desktop as a host client.

I'm renovating my kitchen which is down to the studs currently so the temptation to post is real, but I just do it from my tablet now instead. For whatever reason I view it as a tool to do only those three things so I don't get sucked into the same loop now. And I really need to work on getting our house to not be a construction zone so I have better things to do than scroll videos that I will forget what I even watched within minutes.

That was the biggest revelation how much of a time waste it really is. If I can't even remember what I watched it was that insignificant then there's no point. Sure maybe I'd show my husband something funny, but that's about as far as it goes. Truly feels like brain rot in real time

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Do they have a reason not to?

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Take care of yourself and love unconditionally. If one wants change, he or she may seek it.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 days ago

Steal their phone, open the apps they use the most, and completely fuck up their algorithm watching and liking things they normally wouldn't. Just completely fucking poison their well.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

CartelTok all the way

[-] Squidiey@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago

Make anti-social media and doomscrolling propaganda posters /hj.

this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2026
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