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It is plainly a biological hazzard.
Most people generally feel no attraction to a dead animal so maybe talk to a therapist about that.
But technically not moral issues, sure. You got us there, corpsefucker. Though, if it were capable of expressing its desire to not be fucked as a corpse before it died, we would want to respect that as part of the same social contract wherein we don't want our corpse fucked.
I'm not sexually attracted to living deer either. Being religious sounds confusing as hell.
It's easy to avoid the confusion caused by the absurdities involved by being fucking stupid
wherein we don’t want our corpse fucked.
Hey, speak for yourself. Not everybody wants to have a virgin afterlife.
I hear they make you fuck suicide bombers.
They just told them 72 virgins, guy should have read the fine print
Show me in the Bible or Quran where it says I can't fuck roadkill and I'll stop fucking roadkill. And don't cheat with some "defile corpses" type of language. It's just a cream filling.
As truckers say, it's nature's pocket pussy. Brb I have to make America healthy again by eliminating vaccines and also removing any protections that prevent the spread of parasitic brain worms
I'm no parasitic brain worm expert but this does seem like something that a brain worm riddled person would say.
Can anyone who's fucked roadkill but is definitely not infested with parasitic brain worms care to give us their opinion?
I've met Christians that think like this. I think the "logic" goes something like this:
The just totally miss that atheists generally don't want to do those things any more than they do. It reminds me of what Penn Jillette said in an interview:
The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine. I don't want to do that. Right now, without any god, I don't want to jump across this table and strangle you. I have no desire to strangle you. I have no desire to flip you over and rape you.
The sad part is the hypocrisy. They throw the book at you to explain why they are "non violent" and "love" their neighbors. Then when you point out the millennia of rape and killings the Church committed against their neighbors, they say it was in service of God. Which fucking thing is it: god makes you a good person, or god ordains killing and raping (reserved for Christians only)?
"Without god, what's to stop you from committing all the rape and murder you want?"
I already commit all the rape and murder I want, which is none.
What the fuck did I just read?
Look at my user name and post history. I repeat my comment. What the fuck.
I thought my brain rot had shriveled my brain to the size of a raisin, and yet Christians beat me handily.
Wow.
I don't really think of this scenario as a morality issue. It's just gross.
To Christians, gross and wrong are the same thing. I remember reading about a study done awhile ago that demonstrated that some percentage of the population base their morality upon a disgust response.
I am not an expert on every verse of the Bible, but I don't recall there being a passage that forbids a believer from fucking roadkill. And even if there is, I'm confident that he doesn't know about it, either. So, I suspect that the actual reason that guy doesn't fuck roadkill is nearly the same reason that I don't fuck roadkill.
I don't fuck roadkill because I don't want to. He, on the other hand, also doesn't want to, but he goes the extra step to say that because he doesn't want to, and it's sexual, then actually it's God that doesn't want him to do it.
In my experience, Christians do this frequently. They have some feeling, and then assume that God must want them to feel that way. I can only say that the thought itself must be blasphemous. And when you look at it in that light, it's actually pretty blasphemous if that Christian doesn't stop to fuck all of the roadkill he comes across. Who is he to guess the mind of God? Even if he doesn't want to, he's got to go pump his meat into that dead deer.
So, I suspect that the actual reason that guy doesn’t fuck roadkill is nearly the same reason that I don’t fuck roadkill.
Bold of you to assume that guy doesn't fuck roadkill.
I am not an expert on every verse of the Bible
You don't need to be an expert to a) have read it or b) just look it up before writing a lengthy, uninformed comment:
Exodus ["Laws for a Just Community"]:
[22:19] Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.
Leviticus:
[18:23] And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion. [...] [20:15–16] If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Deuteronomy [Moses speaking]:
[27:21] “‘Cursed be anyone who lies with any kind of animal.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’
If you can read and claim that the above doesn't prohibit it, then you're arguing in bad faith. You can make plenty of solid arguments about e.g. consistency with laws of the Torah (e.g. mixed fabrics, shellfish); this one ain't it, chief.
But it's it still lying with an animal if it's dead?
More importantly, are we saying everything in Leviticus is immortal/unethical, including those you cite at the end? Because most Christians don't.
By your logic that means the Bible thinks it's okay to have sex with a dead human.
RFK is in the chat
Could be projection, but it's more likely that christians think atheists are nothing but nihilistic hedonists that fuck and kill everything and anything. looks at bible oh yeah, that's also projection.
Morality doesn't exist.
Morality is just Empathy re-branded by religion in order to be codified and used to cudgel uneducated medieval serfs.
What they preach about in not killing, not raping, not fucking deer, etc.. etc... literally comes from simply giving the barest minimum of shits about the people around you.
Their problem however, is that Empathy not only predates their religion by hundreds of thousands of years (if not millions), but that Empathy is not limited to humans, which would mean that they're no longer the creator's "special little boy".
So they rename it, put it into neat and easy little Mnemonic devices (lets call them sins) and then run around telling the uneducated peasants "don't do this, don't do that" even though most people weren't doing those things anyway because most people have empathy and simply aren't assholes.
If the only reason you aren't a necrophiliac rapist is because your god says not to, you are not a good person, you are a necrophiliac rapist on a leash.
Since the deer is dead, it can't consent, which is rape. That is what an atheist would say.
Good Christian: Yeah but why didn't your atheist god tell you not to fuck it?
(Starts dry humping the dead creature)
Good point, it might not be immoral
It is, however, fucking disgusting and that's one good reason not to do it.
I'm not talking morals with someone who has a moral codex from 2000 years ago.
I'll never get over the slavery angle. Like, right after delivering your people from generations of slavery would have been the perfect opportunity to go "We're not doing that shit again."
That's the thing that bothers me about religious people, the only thing stopping the lot of them from committing heinous crimes is the fear of eternal damnation. It's like they have no morals at all.
The actual answer is that it violates the dignity of animals and humans. It's so disgusting and grotesque that nobody even wants to read about this stupid hypothetical. Not even as a shitpost, nor as a snarky rejoinder to a shitpost. It's literal gore. What the fuck is wrong with you OP.
That and health issues.
I just don't want maggots on my dick. Simple.
A pragmaticist!
Personally I just don't find this particular deer that hot. I blame the deer for that.
Has my guy never seen the sheep intestine condoms? You can fuck a dead animal while fucking someone else at the same time!
I grew up in a very cultist region, and I remember having similar arguments at 8-13 years old already. Well, not about corpse fucking but murder and such. When I made the same argument, "I'm currently murdering as many people as I want which is 0", the holier than thou counter-argument always was "well that's only because you grew up in a Christian culture even if you're now deciding to not believe!" Which often wasn't just that, it often went further into pretty racist assumptions that if I was like a "wild human living somewhere in Africa", I'd be murdering and eating human meat.. That tells quite a lot about the whole love-thy-neighbor act I think.
And this wasn't somewhere in the 70's, it was in the 2000-2010.
Recently, I was introduced to Wikipedia's List of individual cats.
Among them is Jack, who was lost in luggage by American Airlines. He was found 61 days later, still alive, dehydrated and malnourished and beyond recovery, Jack was put down.
That's one incident. In nature, shit like that happens every single day.
I don't think there's a god, especially the Greek notion of an omnipotent, omniscient creator.
But if one did exist, to us, it is a monster...
...and to It, we are irrelevant.
I can't remember the Bible verse about not sticking your dick in roadkill.
It's not morally wrong, it's just disgusting. And it is morally wrong to fuck a human corpse because the corpse belongs to the family of the deceased, or the state if no family. It's not morally OK to fuck other people's property, or to distress them (in the case of the family) by doing so. Just like how it's OK to fuck your own couch, but not your parent's one.
necrophelia, beastility are often the trifecta of phelias with pedophelia. often found done by evangelicals/conservatives, .. they are probably also attributing "Aethism" to that as well, but they arnt saying ti out loud.
Conservatives on another level, subhuman.
It's neither morally "right" or "wrong". It's just creepy. Creepy like christianity and it's creepy followers. I'm never shocked by the creepy thoughts of xians, obsession with sex and other people having sex, and now sex with roadkill. Was this a post by RFK Jr??? Did you eat it's penis bob?
It isn't morally wrong but it is disgusting. For most of us, that's enough to never do it, or even think about doing it. But I admit for some, they do need religion to keep them from fucking roadkill, apparently.
Unlike you, I do not get a boner from road kill. Maybe you should see a therapist about your necrophiliac beastiality.
Do they not know your own feelings can be a factor? I know the dead deer won't feel anything, that's not what the issue is lol
Is it morally wrong? I think it's extremely gross, but it isn't harming anyone. I think if we are going to say it's morally wrong, it'd have to be because of the rights an animal has in death to its corpse not being desecrated - but we have no problem with mutilating and eating animal corpses, so this only differs in terms of its disgustingness and depravity.
I actually don't think the bible has a compelling stance on this subject. The only relevant things the bible had to say that I can think of are that sex is restricted to marriage and the stuff about not spilling seed. So... the reason a Christian couldn't have sex with roadkill is because they aren't married to it or because it can't get pregnant? That's a pretty weak argument. And if there isn't anything else in the Bible about it... then we're left with soemthing like "necrophilic beastiality is gross" - which, while true, is not a strong moral claim and not something Jesus is recorded as having said, believe it or not.
Too frequently people conflate feelings of disgust with proof of unethical/immoral behavior - in this case it happens to work because the act in question is extremely repugnant, but it's also similar to how religious people justify all sorts of bad actions and bigotry even when their own religious dogma is silent or unclear on the morality of specific things.
It is a normal human impulse to want horrible and disgusting things like this to be immoral, but we do need actual, consistent reasons that make sense if we are going to call something immoral.
Secular ethics are better able to handle this because they can easily include things like animal rights extending beyond death - or we can be comfortable saying this is a disgusting and depraved act, worthy of punishment even, that doesn't have moral weight due to the lack of harm or rights violations (if we say animals don't have rights to dignity in death).
Getting any part of one’s body inside a dead carcass has nothing to do with morals…. It’s fucking DISGUSTING! Remember that piece of meat is currently being eaten and digested by billions of bacterias. All eating and defecating everywhere inside and out.. flies have burrowed eggs in it, worms are crawling everywhere, and all this is releasing toxic gases from all the rotting and digesting…. Also all the sphincters have released so the bowels are leaking out ..! Nope…nope….nope….!!!
I saw another similar post to this earlier and my first thoughts were:
Is humanity this far gone?
I don't think much can be accomplished by discussing the moral and ethical nuance of roadkill fucking.
For some reason we can't get morally squared away on fucking kids. No need to get distracted with hypothetical "I-40 Bambi" scenarios.
I love how the poster suggests giving the atheist a logical fallacy...
They sure did...
Multiple...
(Also an ethical dilemma is not the same thing as a fallacy)
