For Nuremberg trials we would have to win the war first.
I read it as Nuremberg laws at first. Not what I would call it.
Me when a gambling corpo is my souse of news
"undeveloped" is such bullshit and really always was.
Years ago in my hometown there was a developer that wanted to expand the parking lot of the stripmall he owned into a wooded lotone of his major reasons he gave was that "it was just trees" so there was no real loss.... For some people if there isn't a profit being derived from the land then its worthless.
Good luck with that. After the center left governments got removed all initiatives to develop internet infrastructure in the region stopped expanding.
The internet service down there is expensive compared to the rest of the country.
I'm sure they'd deploy their own fiber backbone.
Not to mention that Patagonia spans multiple countries.
They will just do everything via starlink. /s
Such moves were predictable long ago As people in the developed world protest against datacenters, while they use a lot of ai (oh, the hypocrisy...), giving pressure for more and more datacenters, the industry would move them to the developing world, so that the protesters would stop caring, while they make a marketing around here of generating many jobs and bringing economic development.
In my opinion they are building the infrastructure for a fully automated surveillance society, for automated media manipulation, and to remove humans out of the kill chain in the military, while dismantling the rest of what remains of the middle class. We are going straight into high-tech dark ages / feudalism. Shadowrun and Cyberpunk, here we come.
Russia with its limited AI development seems to already have deployed fully automated killing machines (Powered by NVidias Jetson Orin module). The US aim for the same, and everyone else who doesn't want to become a vassal state will have to follow suite.
When i think of this future, the only picture my mind can produce is Black Mirror - Metalhead.
Edit: If used for these tasks, it's also not important if inference is something you can make money with. OpenAI, Anthropic and the Neoclouds are a grave for billions of dollars - but that doesn't matter if the rewards are non-monetary.
Broadly agree, but I think that there is about a 1% chance of working out with the billionaires in control. They will just get their assets expropriated when a war occurs, or the AI will just take over once given the tools.
The billionaires are the ones footing the bill and thinking they will be the "new gods" in their restructured society. In reality, nation states will use this technology to make sure that they can't be touched, regardless of how brutal and inhumane their regime is.
In some way, the billionaires are just some stooges getting scammed into developing the chains that will bind us all.
1% is generous, in my opinion.
That's assuming they clear several hurdles and their little nightmare system works out to be the dream they want for them.
It won't. It'll be a dystopian nightmare for them too.
They always fuck up their goals and only end up closer by the sheer inertia and risk insulation that controlling our economic output gives them.
Then some bright and talented person who dreams of doing the right thing provides the missing links in their machinations and they either steal or buy them.
They made sure that wouldn't happen this time by preemptively trying to rob all of the brightness until those who can won't give them anymore, and those who will are slowly being cognitively robbed of the capability itself.
The AI taking over is both (as currently deployed) impossible and probably amongst the best outcomes, compared to the deathly wave of fucking ineptitude these chuds are unleashing and will continue to unleash.
~~Undeveloped land~~ nature
It's a very hospitable climate. We should drop all the CEOs off down there.
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Didn't that happen in a bond movie ?
I consider any post mentioning 'prediction market' names like this to be advertisements. They are not news sources, they are gambling sites.
Exactly, if you think about it for a second, what exactly is going to power these data centers if Patagonia is so remote and undeveloped?
Oh look its mostly natural gas, which is threatened by all the mess in Hormuz. And hydropower, but the country has been in economic chaos for decades so there's no centralized efforts to get those up and going.
Basically dead on arrival as far as ideas go.
Well betting does work for what it's meant to do. If you wanna know who is favoured in a football match your best option is looking at the betting sites.
Agreed that these "articles" are purely advertisment.
Manufacturing public opinion
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Agreed, but society is going to drive off a bridge before they acknowledge it, let alone do something.
I'm quite against prediction markets for many reasons, but I will say they have been more accurate than most political polls because people are actually putting money where their mouth is.
....and this is why the united states wants to get rid of the ICC so badly.
Isn’t Patagonia basically pristine and undeveloped because it is very remote and hard to develop. And from that highway documentary I remember also big parts are private property
big parts are private property
Surely that makes them easier to buy and develop on than if they were publically owned? Or am I missing your point?
Big sales are easier with consolidated ownership vs disaggregated ownership.
If you need all 1000 acres to get from point a to point b to build something but requires 1000 different people to individually agree it may be next to impossible compared to needing 30 government officials to agree.
There is a reason eminent domain is used so much in the US vs private transactions for large projects. The Dakota access pipeline for example could be done through private purchases, but it's basically so impossible that not approving forced government sales through eminent domain was consider "blocking" it.
I don't understand what the data centers are for? Why do they need so many and what are they even doing? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for something I feel like is in a stock market bubble on the verge of financial collapse as soon as these big corporations realize it isn't as viable as they hoped, which has been coming incrementally.
Practically, the only use of them right now is to inflate stock prices. No business benefits from this much compute other than hardware suppliers and construction companies.
Nah skip it, line em up and give them "The Pianist" treatment.
Presumably they wouldn't want to build the data centers in the national park depicted in the photo, but rather in the larger desert part of Argentinian Patagonia which is basically vast stretches of nothing whatsoever.
It's maybe the least offensive place to put a data center in for that reason
I'm confused by how many reposts I see of Polymarket posts. Why is that a thing?
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